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| We were woeful defensively, far too static and it looked liked we were mentally still in St Helens. We did not support the ball carrier at all. Salford hardly put a foot wrong and played very well as a team.
We looked awful as individuals, and did absolutely nothing as a team. The hardest thing to take, for me, was the game was finished after 20 minutes, if not sooner.
SP has a lot to correct, as the performance over the last 140 minutes has been dreadful.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Thoughts with Tom Davis. He has a career ending injury.'"
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| Not the answer but if Akauola doesn’t get a chance on Monday then I don’t think he ever will, only player springs to mind for me to go in the halves is Livett.
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| Quote ="MorePlaymakersNeeded"Sorry RD, but I didn't see it???'"
I suggest you don't. Sickening.
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| S Price post match comments. We trained well all week so that ones back oh joy, and we didn’t handle the weather conditions,was it raining or snowing I missed that.
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| Quote ="karetaker"S Price post match comments. We trained well all week
so that ones back oh joy, and we didn’t handle the weather conditions,was it raining or snowing I missed that.'"
Really did he reel that one out? Previously that meant "I've lost the dressing room and I haven't a clue what to do next". Lets hope that isn't the case this time.
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| Quote ="MorePlaymakersNeeded"We were woeful defensively, far too static and it looked liked we were mentally still in St Helens. '"
We weren't mentally at Saints in the first place.
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| I'd love to hear a coach say 'ratchford is a liability and I will sell him!'
The biggest problem at our club is that clown!
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| Quote ="Moe syslak"I'd love to hear a coach say 'ratchford is a liability and I will sell him!'
The biggest problem at our club is that clown!'"
What you are joking surely...a player who got m.o.m in grand final..is up they for m.o.s..get agrip
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| A defensive structure should be first priority to nullify a marauding attack by opponents.
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| " During the week the boys have been training pretty good"...............Where ? In the Mulberry Tree
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| Quote ="Moe syslak"I'd love to hear a coach say 'ratchford is a liability and I will sell him!'
The biggest problem at our club is that clown!'"
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| too much hopelessness all over the park to single anyone out.
Seriously only Clarke showed anything worth watching with some supporting good efforts by Chris Hill.
the rest were an absolute mess.
That left flank was as bad as anything ive seen, Goodwin Livett Hughes and Patton. thats not winning anything anytime soon.
in fact it puts to bed any chance of Goodwin moving to the NRL and to souths. He's shockingly uninterested. in fact he's as bad as Livett in the look at me I'm wandering around with so much lack of interest I wouldnt look up if the entire brazilian beach voley ball squad streaked across the pitch.... I'm just going to stand here looking like rugby league comes effortlessly to me.
sorry Harvey it doesnt ........to Brett Kenny it did but not you .... off.....
Patton tries at least....we should be thankful for that...unfortunately only God loves a trier.....
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| It was just one of those days. We were a bit unlucky, and Salford threw a bit too much shape at us.
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| Patton is a complete passenger
What does he try at? Being a rugby player. He makes to many simple errors and gifts possession back too easily.
Livett and Atkins have to be replaced by mamo/king and lineham for starters
Can't offer an alternative to replace Patton. As poor as ratchford has been, not sure I'd move him
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| Anyone got the stats for today? errors, penalties etc. I reckon you could counts Salfords on one hand, our would need centipede's toes.
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| Hope it was just one of those days. We will know in a few weeks if this is just a blip or not. I suspect it is and we'll still be in 2nd after Magic.
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| It’s down to attitude. Like the saints game- we have the players but our players don’t have the attitude. Let’s be honest here: on paper, I’d say man for man we have the best side in SL. But it requires each player to give at least 80%.
Saints game, our back 3 (11, 12 and 13) got completely out enthused. I thought Hilly, Clark and Coops did well against the saints front 3. Hughes and Currie were, however, completely dominated by Knowles, seb and Peyroux, and Matty Lees when he came on.
The players really need to get their s in gear. But I’m not sure if/when it’ll happen. Price needs to do do a Shaun Wayne- take no . Move the players who aren’t performing out to the reserves and make a statement.
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| Our problem is like he CC and GF...we think we've won the game while still in the changing room before kickoff.
Imagine the response had Murphy got at them at ht.
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| (Sorry to post immediately after the last one).
For me, it’s pure complacency. After the Hull game, I thought this is our time. But once again, familiar story with Wire- our players must be revelling in the victory. Saints hammered us. They could have stuck 50 on us. Our players thought they’d only have to turn up and arrive in Stockton Heath for a few pints (after the win?!) like Salford today, our players weren’t that interested. They weren’t playing for the Wire badge. With that fantastic following we had saints- the players let us down big time. No-one minds losing. It’s the manner of defeat though.
Pricey has been good so far- he seems a good bloke. But I do worry that our players couldn’t be d to put the effort in v Salford. Especially after a crap performance v saints.
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| I'm wondering I'd SP is becoming like Cullen....too close to the players. Too matey
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| As has been said, it’s still nailed on for a Saints Vs Wire Grand Final and this is just a blip. However, Patton at 7 could end up costing you a bit like Richardson cost us. He’s a poor player who shouldn’t be anywhere near a team trying to win a Grand Final. Having the likes of Lama Tasi, BMM and Livett won’t help either but when you have quality like Clark and Austin you should be fine.
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| Quote ="Gazwire"It’s down to attitude. Like the saints game- we have the players but our players don’t have the attitude. Let’s be honest here: on paper, I’d say man for man we have the best side in SL. But it requires each player to give at least 80%.
Saints game, our back 3 (11, 12 and 13) got completely out enthused. I thought Hilly, Clark and Coops did well against the saints front 3. Hughes and Currie were, however, completely dominated by Knowles, seb and Peyroux, and Matty Lees when he came on.
The players really need to get their s in gear. But I’m not sure if/when it’ll happen. Price needs to do do a Shaun Wayne- take no poop. Move the players who aren’t performing out to the reserves and make a statement.'"
I think you’re overestimating the quality of your squad and underestimating the attitude of your squad, if that makes sense. I suppose we’re always likely to disagree on this but for me our squad is better than yours especially with the front row we have. For the top quality players you’ve got (Clark, Austin, Charnley etc) you’ve got the likes of Lama Tasi, Patton, BMM, Livett and one or two others who are all average players imo. When you have that many average players you’re relying on your better players to play at the best which isn’t going to happen every week. I imagine you’ll go and put about 50 on Hull Kr now.
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| A fit BMM is quality. I could be wrong here, but I’m more than happy with Currie, Hughes and Westwood/Clark as our back 3. They just need a rocket boost up their backsides. Currie is still recovering though. If he regains anywhere near his old form-he’s the best back row in the comp. He’s tough, strong and handling skills of a half back.
We just need a rocket boost.
(By the way, saints look the real deal. Coote- really, really good signing)
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