he had his hand on him with the trip...so not a trip more like a cumberland throw. Tommy Martyn did it every week. The knee thing did look accidental but could have been a binning just like CHarnleys could have been. Though both were accidental and clumsy more than anything. I think people and especially yourselves arent giving your team enough credit. Nothing at all between them and you should all be proud of your guys and they gave it to us for 80 minutes.

The knee thing definitely wasn't accidental, the trip was a trip whether someone else did it before or not. As lots of us have mentioned, it didn't help that at least 1 yellow should have been given but I dint think it would have changed the outcome.

We played some sets late in the game where we went almost the length of the pitch after you finished sets practically on our line, those efforts in particular were immense, we are excellent at making ground but poor at making chances. We are really close and yet miles away.

We are but there we're 1 or 2 that deserve no credit whatsoever.
I don't think we need even to say who to you.

If you have your hand on when the trip happens its not a t like I said.

I'll have to watch it again then, I thought the hands came after the trip to disguise it. I was speaking to a Wigan fan at HT and he was saying tomkins had lost his head, he couldn't believe he was still on the pitch and though wane should have taken him off before he was sent off. That's from one of your own. Like mentioned I Don't think it would have made the difference anyway though. Wigan were excellent in defence and game management.

Tomkins made mininum contact with his hand, it was the trip which sent Godwin to ground.

Minimal but still contact

Albeit led with the leg and grabbed on the way down.

But, hey, it matters not now, it was the referees (non) decision that counts, and the win to Wigan that goes down in the record books.

I wonder if Wigan are regretting letting Tomkins go?

Also I wonder what Shaun Edwards thinks? I bet Tomkins is more his kind of character than an idiot like Hardaker.

I know which one I'd choose.

1 match ban contact with head also 1 game for lueilei

Sinbin may have made a difference, it may have not done. We had 68 minutes to score after our first try and couldn't.

So you can trip someone over as long as you touch them with your hand?

Sound.

I think that is was deemed a 'Cumberland throw' where it is legal to trip a player with your leg so long as you have one hand on them.

contact with the head, ten minutes, high tackles get given that now, this was less than accidental.

The following players have been issued with the listed charges from match review panel;

Thomas Leuluai (Wigan) - Grade B Dangerous Contact (1 Match Penalty Notice)

Sam Tomkins (Wigan) - Grade B Strikes with knee (1 Match Penalty Notice)

I don't recall tripping ever being legal in SL?

Even the Cumberland throw is now outlawed so should have been a yellow. A few players have actually been banned for these type tackles this season. Richie Myler might be one if my memory serves me correctly.

Current RLF rules.
Foul “throws” 1. (a) A tackler must not make use of any special “holds” or “throws” which are likely to cause injury or use his knees in the tackle. It is permissible for a tackler to bring a player in possession of the ball to the ground by pulling him over the outstretched leg provided he is holding the player with both arms before there is any contact with
the leg.

I didn't see the incident in any case.

In the dim & distant tripping was a straight red , it was deemed such bad practice.

I always understood a Cumberland Throw to be a way of bringing down a [istanding[/i player though, not to trip up a [irunning[/i player. Tripping is clearly dangerous.

It was Tommy Martyn (Snr) go to tackle, usually one handed and very finely judged to avoid being a trip. I think that is why they introduced the requirement to have hold with TWO hands.

Presumably if an offence warrants a 1 match ban it deserved a red card in the match? 2 players down...

In Grand Finals refs tend to try to keep players on the field and leave the disciplinary committee to sort out offences later. In the 2013 final, Ben Westwood punched Blake Green in the face, the ref sensibly just had a quiet word and told Green to stop scriking and man up, which to his credit he did with a man of the match performance, and Westwood was given a one match ban after. The way some of the do gooders go on Westwood should have been sent off.

If Charnley had been binned we could have reason to be agreaved. But he wasn't, I'm. Also under no. Illusion they're even similar but if a refs to make an on the spot decision he could have binned Charnley.

Refs will always be hesitant to send someone off or to the bin in a final. Probably make no difference we can say they may have tired, I think it would have spurred them on further they've a shown a desire to win at any cost and when it comes to digging deep they seem to dig deeper.