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| He can also finish strongly with defenders surrounding him. He has a few very strong positives. But at this present time I think it’s worth trying someone with a steady all-round game.
Whilst I think Prell will be worth introducing at some point - maybe if we have a good run fulll of confidence - I don’t think he should be parachuted in when we clearly aren’t ready defensively out wide. Let’s try M Brown there who is no world beater but may be stronger under the ball, defending grubbers and making the right decisions in the defensive line.
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| Pros:
1) Good scoot
2) teenage girls find him attractive
3) Top Banter
Cons:
1) Can't catch
2) Cant position himself
3) Can't turn
4) Can't tackle
5) Can't communicate
6) Can't finish
7) Cant Pass
8 ) Can't knock/ground a ball dead
9) Can't kick
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| Quote ="moving on..."Pros:
1) Good scoot
2) teenage girls find him attractive
3) Top Banter
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1) Can't catch
2) Cant position himself
3) Can't turn
4) Can't tackle
5) Can't communicate
6) Can't finish
7) Cant Pass
8 ) Can't knock/ground a ball dead
9) Can't kick'"
can't argue with that
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| Hey come on now, that's enough slating the poor guy. He is after all a wire player should be supporting him in his time of need. He is human & might be reading this.....
So Matty do us all a favour RETIRE your Sh*#te
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| Quote ="moving on..."Pros:
1) Good scoot
2) teenage girls find him attractive
3) Top Banter
Cons:
1) Can't catch
2) Cant position himself
3) Can't turn
4) Can't tackle
5) Can't communicate
6) Can't finish
7) Cant Pass
8 ) Can't knock/ground a ball dead
9) Can't kick'"
Sums Russell up
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| Quote ="moving on..."
Cons:
1) Can't catch
2) Cant position himself
3) Can't turn
4) Can't tackle
5) Can't communicate
6) Can't finish
7) Cant Pass
8 ) Can't knock/ground a ball dead
9) Can't kick'"
If we the fans can see these flaws in a player what are the coaches looking at? Are we looking at it in the wrong way? That list is no doubt taken from and over a period of time and its not a good list. To be fair the "Pros list" wasn't very flattering either.
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| Quote ="Snaggletooth"If we the fans can see these flaws in a player what are the coaches looking at? Are we looking at it in the wrong way? That list is no doubt taken from and over a period of time and its not a good list. To be fair the "Pros list" wasn't very flattering either.'"
Over a period of time???? In the first two games of the season he's nailed 6 out of 9 on that list!!
Positioned himself wrong, not been able to turn, dropped off one on one tackles which lead to a try each time, not communicated with his centre and allowed two defenders to run between them, had the ball several times near the line and not finished and not delivered an acurate pass.
what are his pros? besides scooting the ball explain to me what he actually brings to the team.
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| Quote ="moving on..."Over a period of time???? In the first two games of the season he's nailed 6 out of 9 on that list!!
Positioned himself wrong, not been able to turn, dropped off one on one tackles which lead to a try each time, not communicated with his centre and allowed two defenders to run between them, had the ball several times near the line and not finished and not delivered an acurate pass.
what are his pros? besides scooting the ball explain to me what he actually brings to the team.'"
And the unforgiveable fumble of a kick allowing Hudds to score. Thing is this is not the first time.
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| You watch him try and chase Hall back during the Leeds game. I'm not deluded enough to think he should catch him and stop the try, but at least show some sort of pace to put pressure on. Standard story of 10m dash then no pace to follow up. He looks too muscle bound for his size.
Really don't know how he got the big contract off Smith or is getting the games under Price. Hopefully the latter will begin to see the issues.
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| Quote ="moving on..."Over a period of time???? In the first two games of the season he's nailed 6 out of 9 on that list!!
Positioned himself wrong, not been able to turn, dropped off one on one tackles which lead to a try each time, not communicated with his centre and allowed two defenders to run between them, had the ball several times near the line and not finished and not delivered an acurate pass.
what are his pros? besides scooting the ball explain to me what he actually brings to the team.'"
Its stuff like this, you wish the management team had someone in the crowd to listen to live reactions to his play or lack thereof.
I wish i'd put a bid in on that raffle they did to sit in the gunk tank with Price during the salford game, he could see real time reaction to his fook ups.
Its thoroughly depressing.
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| Quote ="moving on..."Over a period of time???? In the first two games of the season he's nailed 6 out of 9 on that list!!
Positioned himself wrong, not been able to turn, dropped off one on one tackles which lead to a try each time, not communicated with his centre and allowed two defenders to run between them, had the ball several times near the line and not finished and not delivered an acurate pass.
what are his pros? besides scooting the ball explain to me what he actually brings to the team.'"
Steady tiger, I'm on your wave length with this one. The list's are applicable to last season as well.
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| This really is the legacy of Smith . Going back to the days of the A teams, some of our players would not even get in them , but it isn't just a Russell thing , we have under performers across the board .
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| Quote ="Philth"You watch him try and chase Hall back during the Leeds game. I'm not deluded enough to think he should catch him and stop the try, but at least show some sort of pace to put pressure on. Standard story of 10m dash then no pace to follow up. He looks too muscle bound for his size.
Really don't know how he got the big contract off Smith or is getting the games under Price. Hopefully the latter will begin to see the issues.'"
If he plays vs Widnes he is clearly undroppable.
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| Ruasell came as a FB but has never been the same since he took a clattering at Widnes.
Rather than shunt him out to Rochdale to get his confidence back we shoved him om the wing. This is the same philosophy that continues to find a place in the team for Atkins, Hughes, Westwood, Ratchford etc. even when the evidence is overwhelming that they are not performing and are handicappjng the team.
Still, TS is gone. So, if Price persists then we'll have to assume the coaches, both from the TS and post-TS era, see something we don't. Alternatively, maybe the alternatives look even worae in training, in which case we really are screwed.
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| Poor player. We have better that can play on the wing, simple as that.
Half decent at Fullback, before he got walloped in the Widnes game and hasnt been the same since. Only positive, half decent finisher, and great kick return (once he caught the ball) when he played full back.
Is he good enough for where we as a club aspire to be?? Absolutely not.
When Wigan get all their wingers back, they will still have 4 better than ours.....lets put a cheeky loan bid in.............
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| some of us had spotted his faults before the widnes dentist treatment, he was under a high ball before that, indecisive at best.
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| His faults were seen by Wigan, offloaded to Hull on loan, then he left on a 2 year deal to Gold Coast Titans where he placed precisely 0 games and came home a year early.
His SL career was 2 games for Wigan in 2011, 4 for Hull in 2012, 0 for Gold Coast in 2013 and then a remarkable 95 for us.
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| Quote ="Longbarn Wire" When Wigan get all their wingers back, they will still have 4 better than ours.....lets put a cheeky loan bid in.............'"
To be fair they have 4 exceptionally good wingers, lineham. Is pretty good though, gets too much flak in my opinion.
The sad truth is I bet Wigan have got about 7 wingers in their ranks that are currently better than Matty Russell. We should definitely asking the pies if they are looking to release any wingers I'd be very disappointed if we weren't in the running when one of their 4 best decides that he wants more game time.
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| Ages since he played a game.
Not played for Wire since he was dropped, & not even getting a gig with Rochdale on a duel registration basis.
Is he still training at Warrington?
Very quiet on the rumours front, which is unusual, for a player that needs to continue his career somewhere.
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| The comments about him are harsh, it’s like people are talking about a terrible player here.
He had his faults and didn’t really have a position he was a specialist at but I’ve not really seen a better runner of the ball off our own line... ever!
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| Quote ="Psychedelic Casual"The comments about him are harsh, it’s like people are talking about a terrible player here.
He had his faults and didn’t really have a position he was a specialist at but I’ve not really seen a better runner of the ball off our own line... ever!'"
Yes he was excellent at the things he did well. When we were in form under Smith he was fantastic at breaking the line from dummy half. We forget that far too easily.
He wasn't an all-round winger though, which is what is required in our new era. I don't want him to leave thinking we didn't appreciate what he did for us during Smith's better times, so I wish him well wherever he ends up.
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| Quote ="Boss Hog"Ages since he played a game.
Not played for Wire since he was dropped, & not even getting a gig with Rochdale on a duel registration basis.
Is he still training at Warrington?
Very quiet on the rumours front, which is unusual, for a player that needs to continue his career somewhere.'"
The sources on here said ...
1. He had refused to go to Rochdale.
2. He is no longer training with the 1st team.
3. He was to go to Salford with Wire paying some of his salary but this appears to have fallen flat.
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| Quote ="easyWire"Yes he was excellent at the things he did well. When we were in form under Smith he was fantastic at breaking the line from dummy half. We forget that far too easily.
He wasn't an all-round winger though, which is what is required in our new era. I don't want him to leave thinking we didn't appreciate what he did for us during Smith's better times, so I wish him well wherever he ends up.'"
I wish him well but we can't give him away currently it seems.
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| Quote ="Wires71"I wish him well but we can't give him away currently it seems.'"
There is a good reason for that.
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| He's on good money here.
Why not milk it.
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