What are you watching. Child as been ok.

Leeds playing the game...Cas playing the occasion.
The officials playing with themselves.

Another kick-and-hope. Some rugby might break out soon.

You mean Hardaker is on tag?

Officially and.morally the best, most entertaining team in the competition fail to turn up and bottle it big time.

Sound familiar?

No idea what your on about

Leeds are like a boa constrictor here.

Cas decide to play the level of rugby,from where they were a decade ago.

Dreadful.

Anyone still after Powell as a coach.? They've decided to abandon their season's principles, to almost adapt an NRL possession,attrition,no flair kind of game.

Poor quality game from both sides, but as I said on an earlier thread, Leeds are BATTLEHARDENED at this time of year.

Yet another GF win for Leeds. They've got them coming out of their ears.

A few mistakes from Leeds, but a fantastic achievement to win the title. They have played well tonight.

This is like watching a man drown.

Cas are hopeless.

Hemmings has just said that Cas don't deserve to be on the receiving end of a scoreline like this....

...wanna bet, Eddie.

Anyone still dismissing McDermott's credentials as coach?

Well, Leeds fans probably, but what about the rest of rugby league?

2016 Warrington LLS, Grand Finalists and Challenge Cup Finalists
2017 Castleford LLS, Grand Finalists.

Absolutely spot on. Even teams as good as the great Kangaroo teams don't always play well, but champion teams they know how to dig in, have a stubborn refusal to accept the seemingly inevitable and can never be discounted.

Mental toughness in barrel loads.

That'll be Richie myler picking that man of the match up next year

Some players just have it, don't they?

Sinfield, Maguire, O'Loughlin, Deacon, Long - turn up in the big games and win those finals.

...and players like Ablett, JJB, Wilkin, Farrell would be criticised every week if they played for us, but they do the grunt for GF winners whilst the ones in my previous post control the game and the tempo.

Wigan
Saints
Leeds and for a decade
Bradford

See my quiet contemplation thread.

This is why we were off the pace come October, even when we were St our peak under Smith.

We need an attitude like those teams

But we had players like those, who were idolised on these pages

Grix
Harrison
Higham

How do you get the attitude? We had Smith who did it for Leeds after decades of failing to be champions and we had Briers, Morley, Hodgson.

Too nice. The ones I listed are grubs as well as grunts. See Ablett winding Gale up tonight and half our team on several occasions.

I wouldn't use Saints as a role model for being on the pace come October. They've lost 5 out of their last 6 Grand Finals.

Ffs Westwood is the biggest grub of them all

Leeds don't win trophies because they have players that wind up others. Why did they release Ryan Bailey?

"Got to lose one to win one".

Even with Hardaker, wouldn't have been guaranteed, Leeds have this stuff in their DNA.