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Quote ="rubber duckie"Well you are certainly wrong about that.
I've at least has been calling for his head for 3 seasons.'"
He's not been with us for 3 seasons yet. Joined for start 2015 and Marshall and Poching left at the end of 2014.
Source : www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/27785262
Reading this article he signed a contract for 2015 and 2016, so must have extended at some point for 2017. I never saw any press release for that.
In researching for the illusive press release I came across this comment in the Warrington Guardian dated 28/10/2015 from rayco8 remarking on the 2015 season.
[iOur bad season was caused by bad coaching and conditioning, and nothing will change until the root cause - Richard Agar is taken out of the equation and replaced fully by Lee Briers as head of first team coaching
I continue to be amazed by the ineptness of Mr Agar as a coach, and this is again reinforced by yet another one of his coaching disasters last week (84 - 4)
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Surely this cannot be allowed to continue in his present role within the club - if he stays, I genuinely fear for the Wire's future, and its time for decisive action from Simon Moran for the sake of the club we love[/i
Source : www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/spo ... new_deals/ |
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Quote ="rubber duckie"Well you are certainly wrong about that.
I've at least has been calling for his head for 3 seasons.'"
He's not been with us for 3 seasons yet. Joined for start 2015 and Marshall and Poching left at the end of 2014.
Source : www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/27785262
Reading this article he signed a contract for 2015 and 2016, so must have extended at some point for 2017. I never saw any press release for that.
In researching for the illusive press release I came across this comment in the Warrington Guardian dated 28/10/2015 from rayco8 remarking on the 2015 season.
[iOur bad season was caused by bad coaching and conditioning, and nothing will change until the root cause - Richard Agar is taken out of the equation and replaced fully by Lee Briers as head of first team coaching
I continue to be amazed by the ineptness of Mr Agar as a coach, and this is again reinforced by yet another one of his coaching disasters last week (84 - 4)
England - France
Surely this cannot be allowed to continue in his present role within the club - if he stays, I genuinely fear for the Wire's future, and its time for decisive action from Simon Moran for the sake of the club we love[/i
Source : www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/spo ... new_deals/ | |
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I've heard players praise him, but he was never liked by majority of fans.
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| Quote ="Smith's Brolly"I've heard players praise him, but he was never liked by majority of fans.'"
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| Quote ="Wires71"Which ones?
He may be the best assistant coach in the world and the fans have it all wrong. Fact remains we are in the middle 8's and should not be.'"
Can't find the original article but apparently Lineham praised Agar for helping him with his jumping into the corner.
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| Quote ="Smith's Brolly"Can't find the original article but apparently Lineham praised Agar for helping him with his jumping into the corner.
Smith doesn't seem to be the one holding training sessions anymore so he has to praise someone I suppose..'"
Maybe Agar's position will be one that is "refreshed for 2018" as Broomhead says. Together with a cull of those players we all recognise as not good enough.
I'm quite hopeful for 2018 as it surely must be an improvement on this season*
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I still wonder if Agar has been brought in as a foil to cover the ineptitude of Smith, but for all we know the problem may lie with the dressing room & not the management
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| Quote ="ninearches"I still wonder if Agar has been brought in as a foil to cover the ineptitude of Smith, but for all we know the problem may lie with the dressing room & not the management'"
Could it be argued that a problem in the dressing room left unaddressed to the extent that it destroys a season, is a problem with the management? |
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| Quote If nobody sees a head of Rugby, coaching the team, do they get dismissed for the poor performance of the team?
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| Quote ="Wires71"Could it be argued that a problem in the dressing room left unaddressed to the extent that it destroys a season, is a problem with the management?'"
I suppose it could since the fortunes of the club have deteriorated on Smith's watch with little or no apparent intervention by the club board or management.
Most of us have watched the club in lean times over the years but this season's collapse seems have been tolerated from on high . |
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I notice that in today's WG all of the stories coming out of the club are accredited to Lee Briers.There is no reference to Tony Smith or Agar in any of them. So, what can we make from that?
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Yep, also noticed Briers was doing a radio interview yesterday, which made me think
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| Quote ="silver2"I notice that in today's WG all of the stories coming out of the club are accredited to Lee Briers.There is no reference to Tony Smith or Agar in any of them. So, what can we make from that?'"
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"you can make that briers was on media duty this week?'"
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Bad news for some, I've just read in league express that he as had offers from NRL but still as a year here and is happy. Guess I would be happy stealing a wage.
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| Quote ="karetaker"Bad news for some, I've just read in league express that he as had offers from NRL but still as a year here and is happy. Guess I would be happy stealing a wage.'"
Yeah, I read that article too.
I surmise that he knows that the Wire hierarchy want him out, & he is hanging-on for an offer by Warrington to buy his contract-out.
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Sort of makes earlier suggestions that he had offered his resignation questionable.
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It was only a couple weeks ago that "Big Karl" was telling us how happy the club is to throw money at the best players at our rivals. Unfortunately we have only been able to get the unwanted players at a jumped up price but why wouldnt we be able to pay off squash boys wage if that's what it takes. Richard Agar hardly has a shining career in coaching Rugby League so suppose he could take the money and open a nice bakery somewhere.
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| Quote ="Boss Hog"Yeah, I read that article too.
I surmise that he knows that the Wire hierarchy want him out, & he is hanging-on for an offer by Warrington to buy his contract-out.
Its a game of cat & mouse now to see who blinks first.'"
We could easily afford to just keep paying his wage monthly and have him on garden leave. If he wants to go anywhere in the 12 months he will have to terminate.
I will be very disillusioned with the club if he remains for a 4th year. |
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| Quote ="Wires71"We could easily afford to just keep paying his wage monthly and have him on garden leave.
That could be a way of levering both Agar & Smith out!
I don`t think Smith would agree to Agar being treated that way, & would threaten to resign.
If we breeze through the qualifiers & ensure SuperLeague for 2018, then the Board of Directors will make their move, initially on Agar.
It then depends on Smith to accept that appointing his best mate as his assistant coach was a blunder. If Agar leaves on good terms, than Smith will stay for the remainder of his contract.
Alternatively Smith could walk, if he deems that Agar has been forced-out
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I would imagine that Smith's negotiating power is diminished following the worst league performance in 15 years whilst spending a fortune in the process to achieve it. Both will be very lucky to survive into 2018, and only at Warrington would they have that chance.
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The club have no choice but to sort this issue immediately after the qualifiers are over, otherwise season tickets sales could take a nose dive.
When season tickets are ready for renewal the club needs goods news and the fans need something to look forward to!!
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| Quote ="Wires71"Both will be very lucky to survive into 2018, and only at Warrington would they have that chance.'"
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| Quote ="Snaggletooth"The club have no choice but to sort this issue immediately after the qualifiers are over, otherwise season tickets sales could take a nose dive.
When season tickets are ready for renewal the club needs goods news and the fans need something to look forward to!!'"
we had an a email at the weekend telling us about the direct debit options for renewing my season ticket..... you just cant make it up.... the weekend we are playing our first lower league game in hundreds of years...
My missus asked am I renewing?
my reply ended in ......"Off" ..... she didnt even get angry at my choice of words....!!!
nope that's me done as a season ticket holder...... I wouldn't pay for these second string matches if I had the choice.....
if as seems likely, The coaching set up stays the same, players played out of position regularly, and players dropped and reinstated regularly then nothing will change, and our League position next year wont change....
so the only thing that can change is the fans.... soI'm not putting up with it.
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I'm struggling to energise myself to go the Catalan game, never mind looking to next February.
Until the club confirms who is in charge for next year, keeping money in pocket.
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nope that's me done as a season ticket holder...... I wouldn't pay for these second string matches if I had the choice.....
if as seems likely, The coaching set up stays the same, players played out of position regularly, and players dropped and reinstated regularly then nothing will change, and our League position next year wont change....
so the only thing that can change is the fans.... soI'm not putting up with it.
#doyourbit'"
It's hard to argue against PAYG due if
1. there is uncertainty of when the games will be played
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