What we were really crying out for was a new logo.

Just not on the training gear.

Draper's CV and list of achievements shows he is one of the best people in the country when it comes to commercially managing sporting organisations.

Granted a handful of the more outwardly visible changes he made may not have been to everyone's liking. To some people, providing anything more on a matchday than a square of dirt to stand on and a game of rugby is seen as excessive razzmatazz.

Now we have Fitzpatrick, who was promoted from the role of "Head of rugby operations" - obviously having a rugby man at the helm promoted within this season rather than a business suit outsider is paying dividends...

Here’s the remaining last five matches in phase one for each of the clubs in the red zone:

=#FF0000Catalans Dragons: Warrington Wolves (A), Leigh Centurions (H), Wigan Warriors (H), St Helens (A), Castleford Tigers (H).

=#FF0000Huddersfield Giants: Wigan Warriors (H), Salford Red Devils (A), Widnes Vikings (H), Leigh Centurions (H), Hull FC (A).

=#FF0000Leigh Centurions: Widnes Vikings (A), Catalans Dragons (A), Warrington Wolves (A), Huddersfield Giants (A), Salford Red Devils (H).

=#FF0000Warrington Wolves: Catalans Dragons (H), Wakefield Trinity (A), Leigh Centurions (H), Wigan Warriors (A), Widnes Vikings (H).

=#FF0000Widnes Vikings: Leigh Centurions (H), Wigan Warriors (A), Huddersfield Giants (A), Wakefield Trinity (H), Warrington Wolves (A).

=#FF0000Wigan Warriors: Huddersfield Giants (A), Widnes Vikings (H), Catalans Dragons (A), Warrington Wolves (H), Leeds Rhinos (H).

We could win 3 from 5. Shirley we'll win 2.

We would have to win 3 games more than Wigan and hudds, so if they win 2 we have to win all 5. Mid 8's it is.

Looking at those run ins if Wigan don't get a result at Hudds tonight our game at their place could be the one that decides which one of us ends up in the bottom 4.

I'd give up predictions with your past record esp where Wire are concerned

He's given up on the "WIRE YED Prediction Competition"

The new logo has grown on me since it was launched but I still prefer the previous one.

The new website was great when it was first launched as well but it looks as though it is still being run by amateurs.

Roger did give the club's image some much needed modernisation and it's a shame he didn't stick around for longer.

For the remaining fixtures I would usury Likud Rui sree suimuujungu new ! TUhatu we're trying ti adapt and win games would what we have available greauerbauules have been win by smaller armies agains larger armies with the right tactics as Powell shown last year when had no hb available and still fielded a team with a plan to win

So some fire from our props and right now survival is what we need to see from the remainder of the season it's bad enough to be in the middle 8s but to be i genuine contention for relegation needs more than some flashy signings to truely remedy

So what are you trying to say?

face it we are doomed..bring on the middle 8s. then bring on end of season and ship out the deadwood to swinton...then rebuild for next season what ever division we are in which should be super league

Looks a bit like part of the menu from the local Indian mixed in with that.

Not so much as given up. Demoralised at picking Wire to win every week.
5 wins.

Feckin sack them both. Any result now only papers over the gaping holes.
Agar out
TS out

Lasts nights result...Huddersfield vs Pies.
You could have scripted it.
It was the perfect result.....

WELL DONE AGAR AND SMITH!!!
YOU HAVE PRACTICALLY DOOMED WIRE TO THE ONLY TIME EVER OUTSIDE OF TOP FLIGHT RUGBY....AND THE WORST EVER SEASON THIS PROUD CLUB AS EVER KNOW.
WHAT YOU PAIR HAVE DONE IS DISGRACEFUL. YOUR BOTH BLINKERED AND TOO FAR UP YOUR OWN EGOS TO LISTEN TO THE FANS AROUND YOU.
THE PRESSURE IS OFF...YES LET'S PAPER OVER THE GAP AND WIN ALL THE GAMES...THEY STAND FOR NOUGHT.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think of know of any successful sporting club in history that has done well by taking the advice of fans. Delusional.

Doesn't change the fact that Smith should have been replaced earlier to save the day though, does it?

The board should listen to the fans at least. Most businesses that ignore customer feedback tend not to do well.

I agree but rubber duckie seems to think the coaching of the team should be done by the fans. Let's save money next year and not employ a coach and let the fans forum do it.

They would do well to take note of the fans. No fans = no club.

Salford doing ok

Only because of Koucash

Could replace Koukash with Moran

Forgive me if I am wrong, but don't you need revenue from commercial activities to base the salary cap on. It cannot be based on directors loans. However the club seem to be tolerating the decline in attendances.

Salford average attendance last year was 4,461, so presumably Koucash must be putting in a fair amount of his own money to keep the club afloat. This year he scrapped the Academy to save money and of course the Sky money in 2017 pays for the squad salaries.

The average SL attendance at the HJ this year is 10,529 compared to 11,092 last year - not too bad considering our league position and the pretty shocking rugby on display. But then I think the Leeds attendance held up well last year as well when they dropped into the middle 8's.

Probably something to do with clubs being able to count season ticket holders as attending even if they don't !!!