What I mean is we've been in front and then just managed to hold on. Or just managed to scrape a win. Go back to the satart of the season and again playing off the cuff and with flair and we were running circles around teams. Sandow gets injured and we turned to 4 drives and a kick. and that's where saw our perfomances start to drop slightly.

I'm not saying it's a bad thing the way we've been playing (players out of position have been the biggest problem) but we do suit playing that free flowing instinctive style. We're a team of intelligent players who play better creatively.

Don't know what game you watched.

We started throwing it away again by throwing it around and knocking on until we started playing boring rugby and capitalising on Hull errors.

Yes, I am not a fan of too much champagne rugby either. Nothing wrong with moving the ball (and big opposition forwards) around. Nothing wrong with fast ptb and exploiting any gaps, but when we get a bit of success it seems to go to our heads and we end up playing volley ball, followed by tears at bedtime. I think it all stems from the approach that TS engenders. Anyone remember when we never took at kick at goal and always chose to tap the ball instead ? And the charge-downs ? Gidley seems to nicely balance our more flamboyant style and to bring a bit more percentage play into the game. And even the mercurial Sandow seems to put in quite a few very high balls to the touchline on the last play. I like what we have at the moment (providing Gidley's body manages to hold together next year.)

We still do charge-downs all the time! Though I'm personally a fan of them, not because they pay off a lot but because of the incredible kick pressure on the other team.

Also I'm pretty sure I saw TS shaking his head for at least one of the penalties we kicked on Friday

The style to play on Thursday.....play as we've done all season. Take risks, but nothing too "devil-may-care".

However, should we have a six point lead at any time, and an easyish 2 points on offer......TAKE THE 2. We're playing knock out rugby, now.Winning is all that matters. I know I've said I go to games to be entertained, but it's trophy time, now.

I've had enough of us being plucky (but entertaining) losers. It's time for us to deliver.

On Thursday we should play at 110mph. Just like Leeds did to us back in 2011.

At this stage of the competition the successful teams seem to be the ones that get away with bending the rules to the nth degree.

So you're saying it's a Wigan v Wigan final then?

Perm any two from Wigan ,Leeds or Saints.

Looks like Gidley is in for the semi, I would guess that means Patton misses out.