Finally someone who talks sense, agree 100%, myler and GOB we great and showed up against cas, however one went missing last week and it turned into kaos,,

The issue here is that when Hill and Sims are off the field, that our go forward, well, doesn't go forward.
It will not be a problem solved by signing more backs.

Check Simms stats last week, came behind England,, we will see tonight, with all 3 starting,,

The Pie board reckon Tony Clubb is their best prop?

He probably is, Tautai can't keep hold of the ball

Silly Tuat isn't he

What about a buy one, get one free on the Fafita brothers?

Yes it will be solved by a half that guides the pack around the field just like it did at Cas when they both turned in a good shift.

No.. Proven tonight. 2, maybe even 3 short props short.

Tony Clubb is our only prop! The others are a pale imitation of what a prop forward should be.

He's been fantastic for Wigan since signing has Clubb. He's aggressive in defence, works his socks off and can be a handful in attack.

Us like Wire need a prop from somewhere but who? There aren't a lot of good ones knocking about who you feel are available.

Anderson is a very good prop and would be a good signing for any superleague side. There was a rumour earlier in the season though that you were interested in Nick Scruton.

What do people think about Scott Taylor? He seemed pretty good the few times I've seen him recently, stats look good too and I imagine he'd prefer to stay in SL if Salford go down...

Signed for Hull to replace Paea.

Saints are after another prop as well, but may look at settling for a backrower at this rate. Saints, Warrington and Wigan all chasing props will only lead to even mediocre props demanding huge wages.

Ha ha yes the props were crap tonight that shows it. Sims and Hill ran and tackled their hearts out tonight on there own. England played 15 mins ? Asotasi is a waste of space granted, and our back line were all still tired from school. How can anyone expect a pack of philbin, currie, king, Wilde compete in Superleague.

www.sportal.com.au/league/nrl-pr ... hlkkezochc When i saw this I thought we might be in for a home grown marquee

www.sportal.com.au/league/nrl-pr ... hlkkezochc When i saw this I thought we might be in for a home grown marquee

3 things have caused us a problem that has not been solved ,the signing of roy Asotasi,on I assume big money , total letdown ,, Paul Wood leaving and not immediately being replaced and Ben Evans sustaining a bad injury so early on , England was always going to be a punt but, he did show good signs at start of season ,,, so who's call was it to sign Big Roy ?? Imagine if we'd got cuthbertson instead

Asotasi isn't anywhere near as bad as Warrington fans make out. His metres per carry are very good, he just isn't used for long. I'd say Smith's use of him is making him look a lot worse than he actually is. He's better with the ball than Ashton Sims who is much lauded on here. Doesn't have the same defensive stats, but I'll bet Sims' minutes on the field swamp Asotasi's.

Asotasi has had nothing like the impact of Sims ,for someone with his reputation he has been very disappointing, nothing personal,I'd have love to have seen him perform like he has done in the past but, it hasn't happened

You are entirely right, Asotasi makes good metres per carry, secures quick PTBs and hits hard in defence...but only for fifteen minutes a game.

Sims is actually a poor carrier of the ball and always gets a taste of the grass even with only one defender present. He is very vulnerable to a low, well executed tackle. He escapes criticism because he does appear to be enthusiastic and tries his level best.

IMO, Sims is our clubs vision of Peacock. But Sims falls some way short of that expectation. I would hazard a guess he is on more money though.

I would be amazed if sims was on anywhere near peacocks salary. He came over from the NRL as an average journeyman prop, unlike his brothers who are now looking likely to be origin players.

Asotasi on the other hand I can believe is probably on more than Peacock, and there in lies a big part of the problem. Value for money terms he is awful - I understand that's the clubs fault rather than his, but in a salary capped sport fans want more from their top earners than the poor 15 minute shift he is capable of. If smith thought Asotasi was capable of more than 15 mins he would play him for more, especially given our current forward issues.

If the money we are paying Big Roy has stopped us from signing another prop ,then he has cost us dear ,Ashton always puts a shift in and takes a backward step or hides when the going gets tough ,Ashton and Hilly have given everything this season and as far as I'm concerned are beyond criticism

any notion that Asotasi does anything better than sims is nonsense.

Sims shows the game means something he makes last ditch tackles that would stop a midfield break, Ive seen more than one occasion sims hanging on to someone by one arm and being the reason that a player has been stopped.
he'll also do that while sweating like a lover because he's putting in a good stint in attack and defence.

Asotasi has missed midfield tackles, plenty of goal line tackles, and doesnt even get too excited about making tackles generally, all in 14 to 16 minutes of play!!! he should be impeccable. masoe did three 6 minutes stints against us but actually made a midfield bust and scored a try.

I will say till the end of time Asotasi is our worst ever overseas signing, and I saw Adam Doyle.

Exactly...anyone that watched the NRL must have realised we were getting the "worst" of the three brothers...but he wasnt/isnt a turkey...

he's done everything that I expected of him from watching him play out his last season at the cowboys, where he would most likely come on and replace test and Origin and 200 NRL game Prop forward Matt Scott and you'd see no difference in the Cowboys go forward or defence. I dont know what people where expecting....he hasn't been a disappointment for me.

all we need is a James Tamou and a Tariq sims to play alongside Chris hill and Ashton and well be right.....

I disagree tFB, Asotasi cannot not be our worst, surely that accolade lies solely within the hands of Andy Currier?
Currier is the only player ever to make a shaat shiny.
Currier completely couldn't care less about our club he had the talent and did nothing but thieve a wage, the only effort he put into a Wire shirt was pulling it over his head, whereas Asotasi does make some effort but is restricted by TS spelling and through his age.