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| Don't see the problem really. The website is pretty regularly updated and the Warrington Guardian provides another media outlet. Other sources have to provide a justified return on investment if they are just duplicating info already on the existing channels, and I'd suggest that its unlikely that we'd attract new support just through dedicated Warrington Wolves social media.
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| Quote ="SLS"In order to have an 'image' and public profile, people have actually got to have the first clue who you are.
Since you're a complete non-entity of a rugby club, desperate to be taken seriously but never quite making it, it's hardly shocking that nobody has any idea, is it ?'"
How devastated are you that nobody bit?
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| Quote "Latchford Locks":
It's kind of odd but..
Back in the Cullen Era 2004/2008
we had a so so team but an electric atmosphere at the club on and off the field,
go in a pub and people were talking rugby !'"
=#FF0000to be fair we had an OK atmosphere, nothing different from nowadays if I'm honest, and Ive even been in the north stand a few times over the last couple of seasons and its been good in there.. People may have actually talked more about rugby when we lost, but that's just the nature of "bad things" its just like reviews on products, there are invariably more people willing to say something is rubbish than when something is actually quite good. I can Remember banging on the table in the pub criticising Cullens forward rotation in particular bringing on a prop five minutes before half time what was the point?.....since Tony Smith doesn't do this I have nothing to complain about its quite simple really....
Quote brilliant pre match entertainment and Sean Mellor rousing the fans with his over the top enthusiasm "Perry Comos Magic Moments" and remember Jedward and the mickey taking music as the away side came on the field
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=#FF0000come on one or too memorable moments like playing match of the day when Wigan came out the year when athletic got in the premier league....hardly side splitting and reading out opposition team "and number 6 is Birdseye...he's not the captain by the way" it was different but thats not really what I go to see....
Quote The Andrew Johns match was a perfect example.'"
=#FF0000a perfect example of what....one match in a whole season that yielded nothing again. it was however a great feeling from the second it was announced that Johns was coming, and it was a superb game, but that loophole is shut and we'll never get the chance to see a world beater in this league under the current format..thats the RFLs fault not Warrington wolves....
Quote Now no game compare/host (to talk of) '" =#FF0000we do have a compare I find him very professional which I can only imagine is the image we want to promote, it attracts more proffessional companies to get involved ....I'm thinking the likes of Emirates Airlines for one example...
Quote flags banned'" ...Ive never really seen flags at the HJ or even wilderspool
I remember Johnny Warbo waving one in front of me for half of the premiership final in 86 it ed me off no end..... its no loss if they are banned.
Quote mutter a song and get warned about your language'" =#FF0000 I hear "you've had your day out now feck off home" loads...
Quote and what have you got ? falling attendances and no atmosphere.'" =#FF0000falling attendances when we are at the most successful we've been since the early seventies has got to be leveled at the current financial plight of the average northerner... with most experiencing the equivalent of something like a 24% cent drop in salary..... I don't believe its down to pre match entertainment or a club website in the slightest.
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I mean even the Drummers have given up and gone home
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Quote Simon Moran is in showbiz why isnt his experience put to good use ???'" =#FF0000i'm glad his experience is being put to the use of signing players like the said Andrew johns, Michael Monaghan Joel Monaghan, Brett hodgson, Ashton Simms, getting a better WCC competiton in the pipeline, running a top stadium, filling in the corners, getting world cup games etc etc ... instead of organinsing some dancing girls or the wire fireball etc...
Quote We seem to rely on fans just to turn up and put up
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| OK Biscuit,,
I may not agree with all you say...
But it was well put together & thought and argued very well.
But I still say I'm right
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| Our best shot at improving all of this is the new CEO having an appreciation for Marketing.
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| I'll try to avoid a drummer/no drummer debate but one of the biggest factors that has affected the atmosphere at the ground is the most vocal of the fans moving into the SW corner.
I normally stand a little over that way anyway so can hear and join in, but the few times I've stood nearer the East stand I couldn't hear them properly and as such the songs hardly spread through the stand.
If those lot stood in the middle it'd filter out better.
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| I don't think the website is the problem, i may be wrong but when i think of social media the club website would have been way down the list of things i'd have thought of.
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| Physical Marketing in and around the town is the key to getting more new fans and bringing back a few that have drifted.
A few billboards would do the trick, turn the bane of many Wire residents' lives, the constant traffic, into a target audience.
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| Quote ="Vespid_Wire"Physical Marketing in and around the town is the key to getting more new fans and bringing back a few that have drifted.
A few billboards would do the trick, turn the bane of many Wire residents' lives, the constant traffic, into a target audience.'"
It would be a start..
But I think word of mouth is the best advert any business can have.
So a great match day experience for current fans would transfer into more bums on seats for other people who then heard about it ....
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| Quote ="Latchford Locks"It would be a start..
But I think word of mouth is the best advert any business can have.
So a great match day experience for current fans would transfer into more bums on seats for other people who then heard about it ....'"
True true.. I'm bringing a newbie to a few matches this season so I'm hoping for a decent atmosphere to draw them in!
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Correct. I know they've got more money to throw at it. but you can access the Man United with a huge number of combinations of URL.
As for the atmosphere, they could start with stopping the ear splitting chart music they insist on playing right up to the kick off. Same with half time as well. It's clear that a bit of miniature rugby and/or zorbing at half time makes people happier than having to watch teenagers gyrating to some music.
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Correct. I know they've got more money to throw at it. but you can access the Man United with a huge number of combinations of URL.
As for the atmosphere, they could start with stopping the ear splitting chart music they insist on playing right up to the kick off. Same with half time as well. It's clear that a bit of miniature rugby and/or zorbing at half time makes people happier than having to watch teenagers gyrating to some music.
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| One Area we must really look at ? ... I'd say our Kicking Game before the website personally , But before that it obviously has to be wolfware or maybe even the washing instruction labels on the new tops so as the sponsors dont peel off after a good old spin cycle .
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| Quote ="Vespid_Wire"Cas & Leeds had a final that month and so their scores would be inflated. Marketing person ell could've taken holiday during August etc. The assessment should've been done over a longer period of time for a true reflection.'"
In 2013 Wire were 95th. Wigan were 113th & Hull FC 54th.
This year Leeds dropped from 5th in 2013, with no Cup Final, to 49th in 2014.
It suggests the Cup Final isnt the major factor in the scores.
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| It suggests this study is too subjective to have any real significance.
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| Quote ="wire78"One Area we must really look at ? ... I'd say our Kicking Game before the website personally , But before that it obviously has to be wolfware or maybe even the washing instruction labels on the new tops so as the sponsors dont peel off after a good old spin cycle .'"
Now any sensible comments?
Or has Auntie Stella taken control of your keyboard
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| Quote ="Him"In 2013 Wire were 95th. Wigan were 113th & Hull FC 54th.
This year Leeds dropped from 5th in 2013, with no Cup Final, to 49th in 2014.
It suggests the Cup Final isnt the major factor in the scores.'"
I never said 'major'.
Point still stands; should've been done over a longer period of time for it to be accurate and taken seriously.
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| vw
you may have a valid point there.
however,
the website is pants regardless of the scoring. the club content of news is little better than that of 'the sun'! it looks like it's ran from the club shop with a portal to twitter feeds.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"vw
you may have a valid point there.
however,
the website is pants regardless of the scoring. the club content of news is little better than that of 'the sun'! it looks like it's ran from the club shop with a portal to twitter feeds.'"
Sorry but The Sun actually carries [usome[/u current news topics and is not just 32 pages of adverts which our website [uwould be [/uif it were a tabloid
so the Sun is poor (yes)
But our web presence is far behind even this standard.
Simon Moran come on down and save the day
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| Sorry LAwire I ought to have said RL news in 'the sun'!
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Sorry LAwire I ought to have said RL news in 'the sun'!'"
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| Lo & behold ,news from the club website ! Prop Tom Walker being transferred to Workington but we have first refusal when his contract with them expires.
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