Have to agree with all of this. Texted a mate at half-time saying fatigue/fitness wins or loses this. Ratch injury a disaster for Wire. The respect shown by both sets of players for each other at the end went a long way to alleviating my disappointment - if those lads can take defeat (and indeed victory) so honourably, who are we to get all y about it and chuck stuff at the telly (as I was doing).

Take a look in the mirror hombre!!!!!!!!!!!!!! better luck next time Wire you should not have come up with an empty sack this season IMO.

Combination of things IMO, the obvious incidents (as discussed) overall benefitted Wigan. I also think the wire players allowed themselves to mentally relax as the 3rd of the quick fire tries was scored. To be uber honest I've always felt players such as Bridge, Atkins & Briers are great when things are going well but not capable of producing the goods when they're up against it. That said, as with any big game, possession is the key. Wigan monopolized in that dept 2nd half

I'm not gloating though. I wanted warrington to win! Pies will be unbearable now. But if you can't handle an opposition fan debating on your board after losing the grand final that's your problem.

I think losing a grand final after being 16-2 up minutes before half time warrants discussion, whether you like it or not.

Oh please. You've been trolling on here all season, yet as soon as you beat us in the GF it's all faux praise bull like "aww, unlucky Wire. You were so close. Better look next time. You should have won at least one trophy this year".

You're a poor liar.

Keep trying hombre I'm not falling for it! It's not my words that are twisted on this board tonight..

They're on a seperate threads you loon. This is a serious thread. If i was trolling i'd have made those type of comments in this thread. Instead, i've refrained from making those type of comments on your own board out of respect.

Couple of points,
1/ hansens tackle was naughty, but not illegal
2/ when Joel was injured, wire players stood around, Wigan players were stretching, exercising and talking
3/ we should have taken the 2 just before ht, we never and Wigan score
4/ Myler was on the pitch
5: better team won, had more aggression and savvy than we did.
6/ try again next season.

Should have taken the 2pts and grinder out

Whilst it's easy to sit back after a coach trip home and a ponder to come up with reasons why? Lets not look too deep into it. It was minute to minute and with the enforced changes made it did rock the balance of the team.
Will there be another year? I'm not so sure with the players leaving and not many players coming in. Or as yet not named.

Injuries and age of team ........

I've no problem with teams not taking the two, the problem was not keeping the pressure on, with Bridge ending up going in touch followed by a wigan pen and the joel monaghan injury. Wire were not in the game after that. It's the risky way wire play. If it doesn't come off you invite the other team back into the game, like CC semi v hull.

There will be it is time now for Warrinton to build from the bottom like Wigan did last couple of years. We now have the infrastructure in the club to make sure we continue to improve.

The outgoing players have given us a great few years but time has caught up with all of them now. No need for big 30+ age signings

Collapse is a massive understatement in my opinion.I knew Wigan would come out the 2nd half all guns blazing + that's what they did + our defence at times was like the Red Sea parting.We had that game virtually in the bag but in typical Wire fashoin let the oppostion score almost bang on half time which would have made a big difference going in 16-2 as opposed to 16-8 as that late try certainly gave the pies the belief they could win the match.Never ever have i been so gutted to lose a match + this will take quite a long time to get over

Coz smith didn't play Hodgson off the bench. Went with 4 forwards. Cooper should had missed out.
No backs
...no plan b

Spot on. Lowest I've ever felt as a Warrington fan without a doubt - and that includes years of watching us at Wilderspool and countless trips to Knowsley Road. Water off a duck's back when you've got zero expectation in the first place, but it's not like that anymore.

What makes it worse is that i was going to have £20 on the pies just to lessen the pain but i didn't even do that.

the best two lancashire teams went head to head and did both towns proud its a bit unlucky for warry this time but thats life. there are twists and turns in every game we handled them better warrington can hold their heads up high and im sure they will learn for next time.

At least you can win the CC

That was the key decision for me,would have made a 16 point lead, ball back.

Went into touch second tackle, Wigan went up the pitch and eventually scored

Injuries played a part,Monaghan going off the killer as most teams dont/cant accomodate losing a winger and hed kept Richards quiet first half

Not here to crow, just to offer an observation from my son who said just before half time. "Dad, Warrington look knackered".

I think he was right and it was a key part of why we won. We were the fitter/fresher team.

Said exactly same thing to my mate that we looked ed just after half time + that is worrying when there's another 40 mins to play.Maybe that had something to do with the 1st half effort but from what I saw the Wigan team looked a lot fitter + faster.

Garbage it goes on week in week out

Think you've got to look beyond injuries. Just before half time in 2010, Wigan were winning 16-6 and Pat Richards got injured which meant he missed the rest of the game. Wigan were smart enough to close the game out and win the trophy.