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| For the good of the game I would like to see England win. But I want a Wire win more than anything else
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| Warrington every minute of every day of the week. But I can understand fans who were brought up on a diet of Challenge Cups, League Titles and SL Titles saying England.
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| Warrington 24,7,365/6, England haven't got a chance with McBanana in charge anyway.
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| Quote ="kevinj"I have heard it is your year (Just like the last one)
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you thought it was your yr you thought it was your yr just like the last 7 you thought it was your yr ,, back on topic warrington by a country mile , don't give a stuff about the world cup , players are never picked on form
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| wire all day long
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| Would reinstating the tours have an effect on interest in the England set up, for instance if the Aussies came over & played against the club teams ,as in days of old, would it encourage spectators to go & watch international matches , seeing how the tourists had played against their clubs ?
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| Quote ="ninearches"Would reinstating the tours have an effect on interest in the England set up, for instance if the Aussies came over & played against the club teams ,as in days of old, would it encourage spectators to go & watch international matches , seeing how the tourists had played against their clubs ?'" yes and no.
club teams are more often stronger, better balanced and settled than the national teams.
the interest from species is high and this funded the touring team of old, 50/50 gates money, but.....
....the scenario that is faced, this gives the touring teams match fitness and a stronger testing before the international game.
Wheras the home nation doesn't play any team and history reminds us what's happens then!
a home nations side really needs to be playing the top six super league clubs, pre tournament less one or two players that may be from that club side their playing course.
It would season our home nations team and perhaps create a deeper national pride from the spectators?
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| Warrington
I have absolutely no interest in England. Until the whole set up is revised and someone is put in charge. who actually knows what he is doing. Then I might give it some thought.
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| Warrington but why an either or, as soon as Saturday is over my focus will shift to England and I'll be fully behind them, McNamara is a tool but I'll be honest of the team he's picked it was only probably 3 players different to the one I would have picked.
On a side note if I was a Wiganer (shivers) I would have seen us win the league countless times, I think given the same question and made to pick one I'd also choose England.
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| I'm with Yed on this one. Some good points made that if we'd won a few league titles or even the cup this season the majority might feel differently.
I would say England if I had to as I think it would be a great boost for the game here which means that hopefully more money would come into the game which would benefit the club. You only have to look at the coverage the England squad announcement got to see the benefits of a strong international game.
According to a previous poster this means I now have to go and sit in the Wigan end
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| I will support England no matter what (even though I think McBanana is clueless) but in a straight shoot out between England winning the World Cup and Warrington winning Super League, it's Warrington all the way.
The only things England are likely to win on the international stage are the European Nations Cup and the Exiles series.
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| Quote ="kevinj"Quick question would you rather Warrington win on Saturday or England win the World Cup
I understand you haven't won for 50 odd years but England winning would put League on the map in my opinion
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Are you asking this question as your team haven't been close to winning a trophy for a few years now and your clutching on to hoping that England will win and Roby will get a winners medal!?
Warrington all day long, anyone that puts their country before their club in any team sport isn't a true fan IMO
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| Absolutely England.
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| Quote ="Hicks Is A God"Warrington all day long, anyone that puts their country before their club in any team sport isn't a true fan IMO'"
I wouldn't go that far....
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| International Rugby League stirs something that club Rugby League could never come close to matching.
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| It's just the same as the debate that always crops up in football during WC/European qualifiers, tournaments etc. Most people tend to go for club in that case.
Would be interesting to see if people who follow RL and chose England, also follow football and whether they would choose England also, and if not, why not.
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| Quote ="Hicks Is A God"Are you asking this question as your team haven't been close to winning a trophy for a few years now and your clutching on to hoping that England will win and Roby will get a winners medal!?
Warrington all day long, anyone that puts their country before their club in any team sport isn't a true fan IMO'"
England for me but then again supporting the most successful team in Super League I suppose it's not 55 years since we won the main trophy,anyway I am sure you will win as 'its always your year just like the last one it's always your year'Never thought I would support the pies but it's just too good a song and with your ageing team this really is your last chance.
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| Quote ="kevinj"England for me but then again supporting the most successful team in Super League I suppose it's not 55 years since we won the main trophy,anyway I am sure you will win as 'its always your year just like the last one it's always your year'Never thought I would support the pies but it's just too good a song and with your ageing team this really is your last chance.'"
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"TROLL'"
A troll is a supernatural being in Norse mythology and Scandinavian folklore.
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| Quote ="kevinj"England for me but then again supporting the most successful team in Super League I suppose it's not 55 years since we won the main trophy,anyway I am sure you will win as 'its always your year just like the last one it's always your year'Never thought I would support the pies but it's just too good a song and with your ageing team this really is your last chance.'"
And people talk about the rivalry between Wigan and Saints, the supposed intensity, yet here is a Saints fan hoping Wigan wins simply because of a song.
Wow, it's true what they say about it being the "friendly" derby.
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| Quote ="kevinj"England for me but then again supporting the most successful team in Super League I suppose it's not 55 years since we won the main trophy,anyway I am sure you will win as 'its always your year just like the last one it's always your year'Never thought I would support the pies but it's just too good a song and with your ageing team this really is your last chance.'"
Ridiculous thread composed by some kid in his lunchbreak, who thinks that trolling is an art. ignore the idiot.
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| Quote ="WireFanatic III"And people talk about the rivalry between Wigan and Saints, the supposed intensity, yet here is a Saints fan hoping Wigan wins simply because of a song.
Wow, it's true what they say about it being the "friendly" derby.'"
Oh it is intense don't worry about that,you enjoy your massive derby with Widnes
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| International team sport is completely secondary to the club equivalent in my opinion. Where the international games differ is that you get people who don't support clubs watching. Cricket, rugby union and football are the three biggest examples of this in this country. I personally don't watch cricket or RU at any level, but I do know people who have no interest in the club game in either but watch internationals. I have a genuine interest in club football and club RL, and a vague passing interest in both internationally. I'll watch internationals in both because I like the sports, but I don't really care who wins. However, again I do know people who don't support football clubs - or say they do but never seem to watch them - who get giddy all of a sudden at World Cup or European Championships time. RL is different as no one seems to care about it at all unless they are properly into it, in which case they will support a club and - as is the case with everyone I know who is properly into football - they will put club before country every time.
Now the cynic in me says that is unlikely to change much, and a surprise win for England on 30th November will almost certainly not result in mass rejoicing amongst people who had never previously bothered with the sport. I might be wrong but I very much doubt it, and deep down I'm sure most people on here agree. I do however acknowledge that it would result in some increase in media coverage - albeit temporarily - and that would help increase sponsorship and TV opportunities as well as possibly boosting Super League attendances slightly next season.
Therefore I can see why some people - especially if they've already seen their club win everything as Wigan fans have - might choose England "for the good of the game". I don't personally share their noble spirit because I'd always put Wire first regardless, but I can see their point of view.
However, can anyone who has picked England honestly say they genuinely feel equal or even greater passion for the England team than for their club? If so then I'm sorry but I could never ever understand that.
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| Quote ="Bobby Digital"Warrington
I have absolutely no interest in England. Until the whole set up is revised and someone is put in charge. who actually knows what he is doing. Then I might give it some thought.'"
Like Tony Smith? Sorry forgot he made a right horlicks of it.
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| Quote ="Dropkick Murphy"International team sport is completely secondary to the club equivalent in my opinion. Where the international games differ is that you get people who don't support clubs watching. Cricket, rugby union and football are the three biggest examples of this in this country. I personally don't watch cricket or RU at any level, but I do know people who have no interest in the club game in either but watch internationals. I have a genuine interest in club football and club RL, and a vague passing interest in both internationally. I'll watch internationals in both because I like the sports, but I don't really care who wins. However, again I do know people who don't support football clubs - or say they do but never seem to watch them - who get giddy all of a sudden at World Cup or European Championships time. RL is different as no one seems to care about it at all unless they are properly into it, in which case they will support a club and - as is the case with everyone I know who is properly into football - they will put club before country every time.
Now the cynic in me says that is unlikely to change much, and a surprise win for England on 30th November will almost certainly not result in mass rejoicing amongst people who had never previously bothered with the sport. I might be wrong but I very much doubt it, and deep down I'm sure most people on here agree. I do however acknowledge that it would result in some increase in media coverage - albeit temporarily - and that would help increase sponsorship and TV opportunities as well as possibly boosting Super League attendances slightly next season.
Therefore I can see why some people - especially if they've already seen their club win everything as Wigan fans have - might choose England "for the good of the game". I don't personally share their noble spirit because I'd always put Wire first regardless, but I can see their point of view.
However, can anyone who has picked England honestly say they genuinely feel equal or even greater passion for the England team than for their club? If so then I'm sorry but I could never ever understand that.'"
Good Post please stop it ha ha
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