or scout trained

I think your smelling Cullens Pants

there was.......

because they said we had a guy in the reserves who had an all round better game than penny was maybe even faster and had played the game longer...........unfortunately he's bobbins...

we shouldnt sign Penny, his time has been and gone, he would get no support from the fans at all and it would make Tony Smith look like dick...........

Rubbish

Totally agree.We surely can't be that desperate to sign a player who hasn't cut the mustard the 1st time around and cannot see Mr Smith risking his credibility and reputation.This would not go down well with the majority of fans that is for sure and wouldn't exactly increase season ticket sales.

Seems such an odd decision to bring him back.

Odd, but maybe Smith is making a knee jerk decision to our obvious lack of pace. People talk about how annoying the charge downs are, what's even more annoying is we probably wouldn't convert if we pulled it off anyway, unless it was Atkins picking it up.

Well, think about it, we're 4 years on, he's possibly served his apprenticeship now, got 4 year more experience, if he's still got his speed, or some of it, perhaps we think he's worth giving another chance, we've picked two other lower league players up.


Most importantly, he won't be on a HUGE wedge anymore which is something that was hanging around his neck at the time

To be fair I do think since we lost Mathers, King and Hicks weve lost some Real popular and enthusiastic Characters... the only time this season when I ve seen the visible enthusiasm and comraderie of a few years ago was when Moz Scored his try at the Etihad. If he came back he wouldnt get many games lets be fair...he wont oust Monas and he'll be behind Riley but he would probably give the squad a bit of a personality boost......

and hopefully the treacle runner Williams will move on

I used to purposely watch Penny, when he was being criticised for his defense, and on the majority of occassions, he was left in a two on one situation by his centre, which innevitabley lead to a try.
He was one, if not the, fastest players I have ever seen in a Warrington shirt. I would love to see him back, if he has kept that pace.
We really do need someone with a real turn of speed.

This.

With Atkins out, we really do lack pace out wide, and without Myler, we have no pace through the middle either. Warrington lately have been playing like driving over Bridgefoot. Slow as fook and you're never quite sure which lane you should be in.

very fair comment.
i always say, a winger is only as good as his final pass!
Jim challenor was noted for saying that Brian Bevan's tries were down to him giving Bev the ball with half a yard.
If Penny had have been given the ball with half a yard, he would have scored every time.
I say he was unfortunate to be paired with another winger that we played out of position as a centre, Matt King.

8/10.

This rumour is gathering pace.

Personally, I liked watching Penny, and I agree to a point that some of the defensive frailties were not his fault, but of the inside men, remember at the time we had a half back who was actually a hooker defending on that side.

His speed and finishing ability is undoubted, and it would be great to see him get a few more on the board like those against Saints all them years ago!

Re Smith, we don't know what the conversation was when Penny left. He may have set this up, go away, grow up as a player and a person and we'll keep an eye on your progress. Who knows?

I would think Simon Moran has had some input into the re-signing.
Penny was well liked, a very nice lad and he loved playing at Warrington.

step backwards for me this....and on the cheap.

Ben Jones Bishop please.

visionary and shrewd I would say.

He's still a defensive liability, based on watching Swinton v York some weeks ago on telly.

No thanks.

For those citing King as Penny's undoing; it wasn't King alone, it was a left side problem, which was instigated by Anderson's lack of discipline in defence. Fantastically aggressive defender, but if he missed an instant overlap would be created putting the outside men at an instant disadvantage.

The bloke on the end always gets hung out to dry. The above, alongside a sizeable contract for a still raw player, was enough to see Penny ushered out.

if you get the attack right, you seldom need defence!

yes he was unfortunately a lot of people on here didnt understand the basic errors top quality players like King and Anderson were making ...

I just found this old photo I used to try and explain back in the day.....already it appears the defensive liability quotes are out in force and he hasnt even signed.....

Completely agree! Add in the 'static' defender of Monaghan, who is a "middle unit" player, and the issue was complete.

I for one would welcome him back as thought we let him go far too quickly. No player since, with the possible exception of Chris Hill, has got me off my seat like KP & I still think he has all the attributes to be a SL player - only time will tell if he will be a excellent one.

If its true I say Welcome back Kev & lets get behind the lad!!!

that's the complete opposite of Tony smith's theology.

from that picture Penny is at fault as all defensive systems work form in to out, meaning the players should come in so they are a solid defensive line without holes, and if the ball is shipped out the defensive line stays together and pulls out. As the picture shows KP stayed on his wing and left a gaping hole inside (closer to the sticks for the converstion)
Seems a bit strange to leave the hole on the outside but there is a greater chance of a dropped ball or mistake if it goes through more hands to get to the whole.
Hope this makes sense.