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| And I find it quite hilarious that fans of other teams seem to believe that Eddie Hemmings is a Warrington fan, when he obviously has St Helens bias. After what he was saying after the Leeds win about it "having to be a Saints v Leeds final", it just confirms it!
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| Quote ="WireFanatic III"I'm glad that there is someone other than me who doesn't like Dearden. In fact, I actually really dislike him and can't stand him. He get's in places that polyfiller couldn't. He is like the BBC Manchester version of John Inverdale/Alan Green on 5 Live, he's gets everywhere. Commentating on Super League games, commentating on football, commentating on Championship matches. Rarely lets his co-commentator get a word in edgeways, rarely agrees with callers into the Sunday afternoon show, defends everyone from coaches, to referees, to touch judges.'"
Oh Dearden and Hunt. Dreadful x2
They'll do ANYTHING, bar commentate on the game in front of him. Still, it's better than listening to that Lovett clown on Wire FM
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| The most entertaining radio commentary I've heard in quite some time was on Radio Humberside ... the Hull KR / St Helens time keeping controversy was quite something to listen to, one guy in particular was absolutely spitting chips about it and came within a gnat's whisker of accusing the time keepers of deliberately running the game on too long to allow saints the opportunity to nick the draw at the end. Priceless.
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| Quote ="Paul Thexton"The most entertaining radio commentary I've heard in quite some time was on Radio Humberside ... the Hull KR / St Helens time keeping controversy was quite something to listen to, one guy in particular was absolutely spitting chips about it and came within a gnat's whisker of accusing the time keepers of deliberately running the game on too long to allow saints the opportunity to nick the draw at the end. Priceless.
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Those buffoons on Humberside are so biased, they make Dearden/Hunt/Kinsella's love of Wigan seem small fry
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| Quote ="lefty goldblatt"Those buffoons on Humberside are so biased, they make Dearden/Hunt/Kinsella's love of Wigan seem small fry'"
I gave up listening to Humberside because of that. Compared to them Jack and Trevor are a breath of fresh air.
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| Quote ="sir adrian morley"2 of the 3 amigos faces at the end,was like sitting in the vets having heard the news there 10 year old pooch had been put down.pathetic they are..'"
I noticed at the time that it was all a bit downbeat considering the magnitude of the occasion.
I have just watched it again after reading the original post and it really is unbelievable. If the presenters' job is to sell the game and give an unbiased opinion then they are failing miserably. We all know it so why can't the powers that be see it and do something? Stevo looked like he just didn't want to be there and the only sign of genuine enthusiasm was from Phil Clarke when talking about how close/unlucky Saints were. Impartial? Yeah ok
They lost mate, just like Wigan, end of! Get over it.
[iShould have been a penalty....Should have been a penalty....Should have been a penalty....Should have been a penalty....Should have been a penalty....Should have been a penalty....Should have been a penalty[/i
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| Quote ="lespaul"I noticed at the time that it was all a bit downbeat considering the magnitude of the occasion.
I have just watched it again after reading the original post and it really is unbelievable. If the presenters' job is to sell the game and give an unbiased opinion then they are failing miserably. We all know it so why can't the powers that be see it and do something? Stevo looked like he just didn't want to be there and the only sign of genuine enthusiasm was from Phil Clarke when talking about how close/unlucky Saints were. Impartial? Yeah ok
They lost mate, just like Wigan, end of! Get over it.
[iShould have been a penalty....Should have been a penalty....Should have been a penalty....Should have been a penalty....Should have been a penalty....Should have been a penalty....Should have been a penalty[/i
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watched the beebs highlights on sunday and brian noble was totally different in his views on waterhouse try where eddie was sobbing like a baby for minutes after..also the offside against briers noble said we were hard done to again totally the opposite to those clowns on sky..get rid and get noble on sky..
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| Watching the NRL Grand final shows how unprofessional Eddie and Stevo have become.
The Aussie guy just concentrates on the game rather than trying to be funny, controversial or drone on about an incident for 10 minutes after it has happened.
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| Quote ="Roddy B"Am I right in saying Stevo said that Lomax was obstructed because he couldn't see Waterhouse? Is that what amounts to an obstruction now? For me, for that try good old common sense was used. Lomax was barely hindered, it made little difference and getting the obstruction call for that would have been poor form on the VR for me.'"
Didnt Lomax actually have hands on Waterhouse after Atkins ran through so no obstruction. Not VR's fualt Lomax tackle like his Nan
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| Quote ="citywolf"Watching the NRL Grand final shows how unprofessional Eddie and Stevo have become.
The Aussie guy just concentrates on the game rather than trying to be funny, controversial or drone on about an incident for 10 minutes after it has happened.'"
There was a moment in the NRL final where a knock on was called and scrum given, yet the replay showed quite clearly the ball was deliberately knocked/stripped out by a tackler.
Eddie & Stevo would have ranted on and on about that for at least 2/3 minutes, the guys on the NRL commentary? "Well he's got a bit unlucky there" - and continued to call the action as it happened.
Totally, totally different approaches.
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| I'll go on record and say I'm not remotely moved one way or t'other by the Sky commentary. I am sure there must be more evils in our world to worry about.
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| I've no real problem with Eddie and Stevo, bar their sensationalism, over some events.
I've said this before, so bear with me, those who have seen it before
In the days of old, one telly in a house, and my dad being a fan of both RL and RU, I saw both codes. I find Union dull, unimaginative, and vastly over-rated. BUT, take their commentator of yesteryear, and he'd make the most dull 12-9 game (all kicks, naturally) seem like an event.
RL has a game that's a bit scrappy, and E&S are having non-stop digs "this is shocking", "I can't believe top class players can play this bad" etc. YOU'D NEVER HEAR BILL McLAREN COME OUT WITH THAT, and he was classed as a commentating legend.
A fracas happens in open play, in either code
E&S "This is disgusting" "There's no need for this in our game" "Appalling. They'll be looking at that, at Red Hall on Monday morning, let me tell you"
Bill McLaren "Little bit of argy-bargy there, but let's go back to that BEAUTIFUL dummy scissors between Jerry Guscott and Micky Skinner, a few moments ago. Sublime play"
E&S HAVE to sensationalise EVERYTHING.
Basically, they are bloody good broadcasters. If they weren't, Sky wouldn't employ them.
I just wish they'd commentate in a normal manner.
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| Going back to GMR, I was unable to go to the Wires Wigan game at the HJ a few months back, so listened to the game on GMR. Never again.
Dearden nearly had a seizure over the forward pass that led to one of our tries, and didn't shut up about it for 15 minutes (in fact he was probably still going on about it in the press box on his own after everyone had gone home), during which time nothing that was actually going on on the pitch was mentioned. The other thing I hate about GMR is the football obsession. If Rochdale Red Lion B Sunday team are playing Oldham Methodists in the first round of the FA tankard trophy at the same time as a super league or challenge cup game, they're back and to like a Wigan fan in Greggs.
"We're going over for some major news at the football where a member of the crowd has gone to buy a hot dog and a bag of crisps for his dad, but AMAZINGLY they've only got ready salted left. What can you tell us Bill?"
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| Quote ="Wires71"I'll go on record and say I'm not remotely moved one way or t'other by the Sky commentary. I am sure there must be more evils in our world to worry about.'"
Yeah, I agree. I thought it was unprofessional of Hemmings to get cross at Briers when he whined about Sky giving us a short turnaround but yeah, it doesn't bother me either.
Having said that, Sky have got to consider moving Stephenson and O'Connor on soon, surely. They offer no insight whatsoever and I'd sooner hear the RL views of Harry Connick JR than those two.
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| Quote ="morrisseyisawire"Going back to GMR, I was unable to go to the Wires Wigan game at the HJ a few months back, so listened to the game on GMR. Never again.
Dearden nearly had a seizure over the forward pass that led to one of our tries, and didn't shut up about it for 15 minutes (in fact he was probably still going on about it in the press box on his own after everyone had gone home), during which time nothing that was actually going on on the pitch was mentioned. The other thing I hate about GMR is the football obsession. If Rochdale Red Lion B Sunday team are playing Oldham Methodists in the first round of the FA tankard trophy at the same time as a super league or challenge cup game, they're back and to like a Wigan fan in Greggs.
"We're going over for some major news at the football where a member of the crowd has gone to buy a hot dog and a bag of crisps for his dad, but AMAZINGLY they've only got ready salted left. What can you tell us Bill?"
Idiots.'"
I'd like to hook Dearden up to an electrical current and send a small electric shock to his nipples every time he says "to be perfectly truthful with you" or "to be honest with you".
Jack - until you tell us otherwise, we will assume you're being truthful and honest, ok pal?
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| Stevo was running down the game again on Backchat last night. Becomes a bit tiresome..maybe he needs a break from the sport?
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| They all do my nut in. Just mute the tele...
Or do your best Gould and Rabbits impression if you need some sound.
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| People get too hung up on the subject but I do often wonder what new or passing fans of our sport must think.
They could be forgiven for thinking they've stumbled on a gameshow at times. It's very pantomime, but not very amusing.
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| what i notice about their commentary (and this game was a very good example) is the general negativity about the way the game turns out, they dont actually say it out loud but i felt there was dissapointment that saints were not winning,( mainly from hemmings) and then as the game went on it was obvious that saints were defo gonna lose they started saying , they havent got a sean long or a kieron cunningham or a . it wasnt the fact that warrington were playing them of the park, oh no it couldnt be that , we finally get another team in the final apart from wigan, saints or bradford and they just seem downbeat about it to me, they should be screaming about it , they talk about expansion and trying to get a more competitive super league , but then when someone does infiltrate the ranks of the so called big four the start feeling sorry for them, hemmings was even bemoaning the fact that kieron cunningham had never won man of steel, whats that got to do with the semi final between saints and warrington, someone had a bandage on his face in a game the other week and hemmigs started talking about andy farrell!!
i turned the game off as soon as the whistle went because i was sick of the commentary, so i didnt hear what was said after, but to me the focus was on the dissapointment for saints loss and not on the fact that there might be new name on the cup this year which there definately should of been, by the way i am a widnes supporter and i am just sick of the bias towards the so called big four
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| Quote ="Wirefan"People get too hung up on the subject but I do often wonder what new or passing fans of our sport must think.
They could be forgiven for thinking they've stumbled on a gameshow at times. It's very pantomime, but not very amusing.'"
Considering 50% of Sky Sports RL viewers live in the South of England they must be doing something right. If you want pantomime, search Eddie Waring on YouTube. Hemmings and Stephenson have done a brilliant job of promoting our game over the past 21 years. I don't quite get why people are saying Stevo didn't want us to win, he has been saying we will win for years!
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| Personally i think people see what they want to see.
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"Personally i think people see what they want to see.'"
Definitely. Once something winds you up you begin to look for little things and interpret them differently to back up your opinion. I spoke to Stevo after the Broncos game in August, and he was full of praise for Warrington saying he would be cheering for us at Wembley. Yet I regularly read on here that he loves Leeds and hates us!
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"Personally i think people see what they want to see.'"
may be to a gedree but theres no doubting the bias towards leeds saints and wigan.....the season we won the league saints eddie asked paul cullen on boots n all is it good for our game that warrington are putting huge scores on teams,it cant be he whinged..weeks later saints murdered wakey at there rented home on sky and all we got was only saints could score trys like this and true entertainers...2 faced and biased if you ask me...
watched that super league backchat this morning thought i had leeds tv on..hardly a mention of westwood who got nominated for m.o.s but more concerned with sinfields (whose a very good player)omission from the m.o.s list
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| How many games have you been that are 'the best ever', I've probably said it loads of times?
"This was Wire's best game we were near perfect".
The trouble is humans don't remember every single moment of their existence.
The thing is though we remember sections of our life and other peoples life, many a time i remember a day that a mate has forgot.
My point is they say things having forgot what they have said in the past, trouble is you might remember them saying something contradictory to what they have said, we all do it.
Our experiences change and it changes our view on things and our opinions change.
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| Are you saying they are senile, Yed?
I don't like that they don't commentate on the action; it would be better if they did, because it would negate all the popped-into-their-heads-and-spewed-forth-without-a-filter claptrap they all come out with. I honestly don't think they're concentrating on what they are saying, or else Eddie would not have started babbling about the moon, or where Stevo keeps his hair (?!!)
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