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| Quote ="Thelonius"But if Finch makes the same mistake as McGuire tomorrow will he want consistency from the RFL and remind the panel, or will he be consistent himself and repeat his post Catalan display and try to defend his own player no matter how bad it looked?'"
What do you think? He has done no different to what any other coach would do. Brian Mac was on SSN at the club call saying how nice a guy McGuire was. Why do you think that was?
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| Quote ="21-12"Welcome to last week.
Tony Smith is probably the most outspoken coach in Super League, and loves a moan. Its quite ironic that this thread exists on this board.'" oh dear me, lack of insight at it's best!
my favorite was --
to wane- "who's going to win the warrington wigan match?"
wane- "if our forwards perform on the day, blah blah blah...we can win it"
to smith- "who's going to win the warrington wigan match?"
smith- "only a fool would predict a match before it's played"
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| Quote ="SLIMply winning!"oh dear me, lack of insight at it's best!
my favorite was --
to wane- "who's going to win the warrington wigan match?"
wane- "if our forwards perform on the day, blah blah blah...we can win it"
to smith- "who's going to win the warrington wigan match?"
smith- "only a fool would predict a match before it's played"'"
So because he refused to comment on a game he isn't outspoken? How about his comments this week about the playoffs? How about his comments last year about Joel Monaghan and abuse from fans?
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"Well said. Wane delivered the business by winning the league and so if he wants to be a bit outspoken so what.
Some RL fans are right whinging mards, if a coach wants to raise the stakes by what they have said then good for the game IMO, look at guys like Jose Mourinho or Roberto Mancini in football, they aren't afraid to be a bit controversial and shake things up, it makes things more interesting.
Most RL coaches are boring do gooders, they get asked what do you think about the upcoming match, they say "ah yes [insert name of opposition are a really talented team [even if they are rubbish, if you take them lightly they will punish you blah blah" then the article gets written up on a news website under the headline "oring coach wary of [opposition team threat". YAWN.
In any case Wane has managed to rub his own fans up the wrong way at some points this season, there are posts on the Wigan forum from their fans complaining about what he says.
I would like coaches to be more controversial, if they think the RFL is bent and the referees are rubbish come out and say it, then instead of getting all high and mighty and fining them, the RFL or referees could just use their right to reply, say the coach is talking rubbish and he should focus on winning matches rather than criticising the refs. I would like this kind of aggressive banter and it would make RL much more interesting.'"
Or maybe RL coaches are generally more respectful than their football counterparts, which then translates to the players' attitude on the pitch towards each other and the referee.
So yes, we could be more like football. Judging from the reaction of a lot of people though, most would prefer we weren't.
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| Blind panic on the Wigan as Sam might be injured, anyone would think they are a one man team.
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| Quote ="Conroy"So because he refused to comment on a game he isn't outspoken? How about his comments this week about the playoffs? How about his comments last year about Joel Monaghan and abuse from fans?'"
You mean the comments about the play-offs, that just about everyone apart from Nigel Wood agree with? Smith won't make a negative or disparaging comment about an individual opposition player, Wane would and did.
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"He wouldn't have asked for McGuire to be banned, probably the opposite, he'd have wanted him to play, TS usually moans about silly RFL initiatives, like clubcall and having too many teams in the playoffs.
Can't stand Wane in the same way i couldn't stand Jimmy Lowes when he was our coach, classless and base.'"
I can’t believe it we are now going on about what can and shouldn’t be whinged about. Do you really think anybody listens to what SW says or think he has any verbal clout with any one, especially the RFL? They’re all a big turn-off, Smithy (the um-ah man) makes my ears bleed.
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| probably umming an ahhing because he's thinking before he speaks?
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| Quote ="pies-r-us"I can’t believe it we are now going on about what can and shouldn’t be whinged about. Do you really think anybody listens to what SW says or think he has any verbal clout with any one, especially the RFL? They’re all a big turn-off, Smithy (the um-ah man) makes my ears bleed.
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He still should not have said it though. People do listen to SW. Our pack were listening with great interest when he said that Wigan weren't going to be bullied by Warrington again.
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| I don't know what all the fuss is about, he's employed to do the best he can for Wigan, rightly or wrongly that's what he thinks he's doing and if that backfires by winding the opposition up then here's hoping. He also seems to be winding half 'his' speccies up in the process...great stuff.
It all adds a bit of interest and if he or anyone comes out with something really out of order then the RL should step in to dampen the conspiracy theorists
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| Quote ="Uncle Rico"I don't know what all the fuss is about, he's employed to do the best he can for Wigan, rightly or wrongly that's what he thinks he's doing and if that backfires by winding the opposition up then here's hoping. He also seems to be winding half 'his' speccies up in the process...great stuff.
It all adds a bit of interest and if he or anyone comes out with something really out of order then the RL should step in to dampen the conspiracy theorists'"
The positive part of all this is that it seems to have got everyone wound up. I'm predicting a really explosive game tonight. i think the match officials will have their hands full, I can't wait.
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| Quote ="Teessidewire"The positive part of all this is that it seems to have got everyone wound up. I'm predicting a really explosive game tonight. i think the match officials will have their hands full, I can't wait.'"
Agreed and it's not as if RL is an 'after you Maude' sport? I'm looking forward to a bit of old fashioned stuff this evening
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| People should be encouraging this gob e to speak out, not telling him to shut up. Almost everytime he has gone to press spouting off, it has come back to bite him.
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| Wane is a great motivational speaker problem is he motivates the opposition more than his own team LMFAO ! =#BF0000'DON'T USE THAT TERM AGAIN'
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| Quote ="Uncle Rico"Agreed and it's not as if RL is an 'after you Maude' sport? I'm looking forward to a bit of old fashioned stuff this evening'"
Bring back a bit of biff! Hope both teams knock 10 bells out of one another.
At least if we lose, Leeds or Wigan will only get beat by a small team. Don't mind the underdog winning one every now and again.
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| Quote ="Wire_85"Blind panic on the Wigan as Sam might be injured, anyone would think they are a one man team.'"
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| Quote ="Alfie Langer No2"Bring back a bit of biff! Hope both teams knock 10 bells out of one another.
At least if we lose, Leeds or Wigan will only get beat by a small team. Don't mind the underdog winning one every now and again.'"
CORRECT Alfie tonight should be a belter for a 'neutral'
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| Quote ="pies-r-us"[size=150Briers![/size'"
On what evidence do you base this theory Mr Pastry?
Whilst I might care to admit that we are a better team with Lee in it, I don't think that our 'losing' stats seem to back this up
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| Quote ="danburge82"If you don't like it don't come on here and read em. Simple really. You've been our top of the table rivals two seasons in a row and there are only two other teams as well as us two left playing the sport this season. Plus this Wane-Maguire balls is in the media and is news. There's good reason for plenty of talk about the Pies.
Do you want us to start threads about Swinton just to talk about something else?
The irnonic thing about you kid, is that you must be obsessed enough with us Wires to be on our forum seeing what we're taking about all the time. Then you have the cheek to comment...sling it fella!'"
You aint our rivals. You just think you are our rivals so it makes you look better. The mighty Wigan don't want a rivalry with a team that cant get to any grand finals, We have rivalries with big teams.
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| The word is doing its round on the Wigan boards.
Tomkins is out for a minimum of 2-4 weeks with a knee injury and won't play tonight. Leeds at 5/2 with the bookies anyone?
Oh and the rugby gods strike again! (If true)
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| Quote ="Cherry_Warrior"You aint our rivals. You just think you are our rivals so it makes you look better. The mighty Wigan don't want a rivalry with a team that cant get to any grand finals, We have rivalries with big teams.'"
Do you want to know what I think? Perhaps not but here goes.
Why are you on here, a 'none rival' board and we aren't even playing each other? Unless you are a crackpot?
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| Quote ="Uncle Rico"Do you want to know what I think? Perhaps not but here goes.
Why are you on here, a 'none rival' board and we aren't even playing each other? Unless you are a crackpot?'"
i have just been on the Salford board. I suppose they are our rivals too. I like to read. Something Wire fans struggle with.
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| Quote ="Cherry_Warrior"i have just been on the Salford board. I suppose they are our rivals too. I like to read. Something Wire fans struggle with.'"
I'm cut to the quick with your rapier wit, despite struggling to read,
It all depends on the definition of "rivals" really doesnt it? Do Salford play in the same competitions? Yes so in that respect they are. do they come from the same geographical area? Yes,perhaps another box ticked? Unfortunately for them despite doing well against us this year that is where Salford duck out of the equation in my opinion.
Without wishing to sound as arrogant as you, do you really see us, a team that has never been out of top flight RL and winners of a trophy or two in the last four years in the same way that you view Salford?
If so then you are an idiot, if not then you are a troll and you should jog on. Either way I wish you goodnight, safe in the knowledge that you haven't persuaded me to change my mind about Wigan fans in general
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| Quote ="Cherry_Warrior"i have just been on the Salford board. I suppose they are our rivals too. I like to read. Something Wire fans struggle with.'"
I'm having no trouble reading your shocking grammar.
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