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| As someone else mentioned earlier in the thread - there is no use lamenting those who didn't attend. Yes the attendance was pretty cringeworthy but despite the low home turnout, I thought those of us who did go created a pretty decent atmosphere.
I can see why some gave this one a miss though - Expected us to win easily or get beat, Prices, and we must remember we have played every week of the season this year with the Cup Run and the maximum number of playoffs, and compared to a small club like Widnes , fans have racked up a sizeable bill.
Roll on next week.
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| Quote ="morrisseyisawire"I was amazed when I arrived at the ground and saw the turnout - I would have expected a lower gate at the Saints game where the importance of the match wasn't clear-cut. The turnout should embarrass the RFL and make them take a good look at pricing and the play-off format in general.
Fair play to Hull for turning out in numbers and being vocal throughout - if they hadn't anyone tuning in would have thought pre-season had started early.'"
The turnout showed two things a) the playoffs don't work b) a large majority of wire fans are newbie ST peeps who don't care if we win or lose. I lament and miss the the days of Wilderspool when at least we (as supporters) looked like we gave a fook if we won or lost and sang throughout. Like a morgue and FC made more noise than us.
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| Quote ="Wires71"STs get enough effing perks. Some of them are very, very lazy gits who dont go the CC round games or playoff games yet they will be out in force on Monday for their Saints tickets.'"
The 'perks' are what some people get season tickets for. They invest larger sums of money at the start of the year so should be entitled to preference when it comes to cup or play off tickets etc. Including play off vouchers or money off play off games in season tickets may help to swell attendances. I've had my ST since the 1980's and think that I deserve to be give priority over a bandwagon jumper from the HJ times onwards who pick and choose their games.
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| Quote ="Garrincha's Dog"The 'perks' are what some people get season tickets for. They invest larger sums of money at the start of the year so should be entitled to preference when it comes to cup or play off tickets etc. Including play off vouchers or money off play off games in season tickets may help to swell attendances. I've had my ST since the 1980's and think that I deserve to be give priority over a bandwagon jumper from the HJ times onwards who pick and choose their games.'"
I do hope you don't count me in that number. I prob met you at the 86 Final at Elland Road, the 89 at Main Road or the 91 at Leeds
In all seriousness IMO you are only good as your last game as a fan. I don't get a ST as I miss 4 home games a season and the money bit aint a big deal. I do get pi$$ed off if i watch 2 playoff games while STs sit at home and I'll not get a ticket for the Saints game only for them to come out in blue curly wigs and facepaint. 2 Playoff stubs should count equal.
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| It is not just "Wire" all the play off games have been poorly attended including our own home tie against Huddersfield. The RFL really need to look at it though because it is an embarrassment to the sport when 'Quarter finals' are poorly attended.
Daft stuff like the walk up prices need changing, why should a kids ticket go from £5 to £14.50 on the day it makes no sense and puts off those who don't know if they can make a game till the last minute.
Well played tonight, and a deserved win Good luck next week and hopefully in the final.
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| Quote ="karetaker"What a disgrace,dont give me all that bull about finances,challenge cup final is just an extra game but thousands can turn out for that.guess all the glory hunters will be available if we get to the final.'"
go then give me a good reason why me and my wife and 3 kids should go and pay(x amount not sure how much) when a few beers at home nice buffet..you do the maths...
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| Quote ="sir adrian morley"go then give me a good reason why me and my wife and 3 kids should go and pay(x amount not sure how much) when a few beers at home nice buffet..you do the maths...'"
I'll give you a reason. To feel like a real supporter and not an armchair one. Kids were a fiver tonight.
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"Was on Holiday this week(sure everyone missed me), could have drove up today and watched it but didn't fancy driving up and then coming straight back on a 7 hour round trip after i'd already done about 600 miles worth of driving already
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You are excused as you live 220 miles away. Those who live <= 10 miles are not.
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| Quote ="karetaker"What a disgrace,dont give me all that bull about finances,challenge cup final is just an extra game but thousands can turn out for that.guess all the glory hunters will be available if we get to the final.'"
I wouldn't call us all glory hunters . I ave had a season ticket for a lot of years the last 5 in the north stand
. I would of loved to come tonight but as I am disabled and a pensioner and no way (as much as I would love to be able to could I stand for a entire match as is the case of many round me) well the cost becomes prohibitive. I would love to stand in south stand and soak up the atmospher as I did many years ago. Alas as you will soon find time catches us all. If I am at O T you can say I was a glory hunter from the late 40s people have prioritys
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| Quote ="john7420"I wouldn't call us all glory hunters . I ave had a season ticket for a lot of years the last 5 in the north stand
. I would of loved to come tonight but as I am disabled and a pensioner and no way (as much as I would love to be able to could I stand for a entire match as is the case of many round me) well the cost becomes prohibitive. I would love to stand in south stand and soak up the atmospher as I did many years ago. Alas as you will soon find time catches us all. If I am at O T you can say I was a glory hunter from the late 40s people have prioritys'"
You have moved me to action Sir. I'd like to think Warrington Wolves have facilities for disabled people so they can enjoy the game. I shall be writing to Mr Gatcliffe on your behalf. It should not be such that a true fan as yourself be denied entry to the game through disability and lack of funds.
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| I cannot for the life of me understand why the path to the ultimate season long goal (GF) is so appallingly supported by rugby league fans. We play all these weekly rounds from Feb to September in the hope of getting ourselves in to a position from which we could reach Old Trafford, and then all of a sudden, once we get down to the 'real' games at the end of the year, no er is interested. madness.
Yes money may be tight but I'm simply not having that as an excuse for some 7000 fans tonight who would have been waving their flags whilst we were ting Widnes in a meaningless game during the weekly rounds.
Not just us. The RFL need to seriously look at the concept as a whole and then at pricing.
I was embarrassed for us tonight.
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| Finances are tight for everyone at the minute and the cost of going to a playoff game is extortionate especially when there are some that dont really matter if you win or lose, the RFL have to have a serious look at the format and pricing.
However the main area that was empty is the season ticketed area which does ask the question why pay to watch the league games and not bother turn up at the business end of the season? everything they have payed to watch is effectively a build up to this? Excuses like expecting to lose dont wash even in the bad years where we narrowly avoided relegation wilderspool was packed and we sang and got behind OUR team yet when were successful were struggling to fill our stadium for the last home game of the season
LOL ABOVE WAS NOT THERE WHEN I STARTED WRITING LOL
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| You see I'm just not buying this money is tight lark. It's no different now to how it's been for years. The 'recession' gets a lot of media hype, but most of it is just that. Really most of it is just tight d fans. man utd best hope this recession doesn't strike in Manchester or they are gonna be ed.
Tonight was do or die. Clearly the fans voted for what they really wanted. They could have then come on here and started topics about Dunlop track suits in Premier Sports, or how Tony Smith has taken us as far as he can and needs replacing, or 'Same old Warrington'.
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| I was on dad duties last night,watched it on sky with afew Stellas.Even if i could have gone i think i would have give it a miss with prices the club wanted for the tickets.
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| Thex Factor and Strickly ! What is this country coming to !
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| I'm really happy for you that finances aren't an issue but not everyone is that fortunate and to dismiss it as a reason is wrong. I didn't go last night or last week because of finances. I didn't go to Wembley this year for the same reason. I won't be going to the Grand Final this year - again for the same reason. I would love to be able to go to every game but when you grow up you will find that sometimes a car repair/ new fridge/ washing machine have to take priority on you hard earned cash.
Ever thought that some of those season ticket holders that left empty seats had moved to the South Stand?
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| Why is the assumption that the people who didn't go are all band wagon jumpers? I have been picking and choosing my games this year for the first time ever and I have supported for forty years.
Just don't feel the same connection anymore and I don't fully believe in the play-offs. All seems a bit soulless. I saw more passion on display earlier in the day at the NWC 13-15s finals day (incidentally two Warrington winners, Latchford at U14s and Bank Quay at U15s).
It does confuse me though why ST holders turn up week in week out just to end up missing what (for better or worse) is supposed to be the point of it all.
Mind I will still be going next Saturday.
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| I disagree finances do make a difference and definitely have an impact, I think a lot of people had an eye on next week when they have to travel to the game and all of those expenses that go along with it, and whilst it is great that some people don’t have to worry financially, some of us do even if we do earn a reasonable wage this weekend was uni start weekend and dropping of 2 daughters, supplying food and paying for accommodation I for one certainly didn’t have the spare cash to go and see a game that was on sky even though I was 3/4 the way there from Norfolk, I would have loved to have gone, if the prices had been dropped it may well have made a difference to my decision as even £10 less a ticket would have offset the extra petrol cost and helped changed my mind.
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| I know people don't like me bringing football into it, but a fair few Wire fans also attend football fixtures of our fairly local clubs. Between pay day last week and pay day on 15th Oct I could have possibly nine games in rugby and footy to attend: Saints last week, Hull last night, Saints next week, possible Grand Final; City today, Tuesday, Saturday, the Wednesday after and the morning of the Grand Final.
I'm 30 and single with no kids, so I'll be at most of those games (wont get a ticket for Saints away and wont be able to afford Fulham away) as the cost on each day will just be for me but even so I'll be spending most of my money on sport in this pay period. That's not the same for many fans as loads take a kid, a few kids or the whole family to games.
We've also just had one pay day to recoup from anyone going on a Summer holiday, we've just had Wembley (costs a bomb!) and Old Trafford IF we get there coming up (will cost slightly less than a bomb!).
Plus the biggest thing I take from the whole thing; the apathy towards the Play-offs across the whole of the Super League (every game so far has been poorly attended - I mentioned figures earlier in the thread).
But even so, there were about 5000 at the Bradford Challenge Cup Fourth Round game back in April. There were 7000 there for what is essentially a quarter final last night. There were 11000 at Catalan for our CC Quarter Final with them back in May and 11000 there the other night against Leeds. We're the only team to have played at home twice and Wigan only got 7000 last week. Do the numbers not stack up about right?
More people attend with season tickets as the price of the games averages out to a fairly low price overall and many save up for those over the twelve months between paying. Many would never attend games they have to pay extra for. That'll be evident at City on Tuesday in the League Cup too.
I think we're being a little hard on ourselves over last night's attendance.
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| This is not a dig at Warrington fans, certainly not the ones who turned out last night, more a dig at the part time RL fans in general.
I am a season ticket holder at Hull. I live in west Yorkshire so I have a 130 mile round trip to home games. Clearly by my location many away games are closer for me to get to. This season I have been to 21 games. Other than the games at London and catalans I missed games due to either holiday, work commitments or sky changes clashing with other arrangements.
Even if a fan attended all home games in SL, that would be only 13 fixtures. If a fan can afford a season ticket 10 months earlier, I find it odd they couldn't budget for a few extra games (which for your team you have to anticipate) in the play offs.
Now think back to when Wire were in either the the Regal trophy final or the
lancashire cup final, how many games were played.
RL, in my opinion is a far better sporting spectacle than football. I am not a football hater like some RL fans. But why is it that top flight football stadia are packed to the rafters despite the price being twice that of RL games for just about double the number of games?
Fact is, for many, RL is an after thought rather than their passion.
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| Quote ="Original BullyBoy"I disagree finances do make a difference and definitely have an impact, I think a lot of people had an eye on next week when they have to travel to the game and all of those expenses that go along with it, and whilst it is great that some people don’t have to worry financially, some of us do even if we do earn a reasonable wage this weekend was uni start weekend and dropping of 2 daughters, supplying food and paying for accommodation I for one certainly didn’t have the spare cash to go and see a game that was on sky even though I was 3/4 the way there from Norfolk, I would have loved to have gone, if the prices had been dropped it may well have made a difference to my decision as even £10 less a ticket would have offset the extra petrol cost and helped changed my mind.'"
With all due respect, travel costs from Warrington to st Helens will be minimal. You would only have had an eye on next week if you got passed Hull, which before kick off some had doubts about. Meaning this could have Been your last game of the season. Or were some so dead sure you would win last night?
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| unfortunately i have to pick the games i go to and i have been watching since i was 3 but shifts meant that i cant make every game also the last year i have been a house hubby with the wife working shifts so have had 3 kids to look after. i have not had a season ticket because on average i could only make about 10 games a year, however this is changing next year and new job means new rota of mon - fri 8:30 - 5 so i will get a st for next season.
anyway i have no idea what that rant was about other than just because some people dont turn up does not mean they are not real fans.
Ps - i actually made it last night and thought it was a cracking game
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| First home game missed this season by myself and my 2 sons, but the eldest started at Uni in the Midlands yesterday afternoon so we couldn't attend.
I feel dirty having seen the lack of support and not attending myself, compelled by the disgusting sight of a family of fat people sat in our seats at the back of the East. I'm going to scrub myself with a wire brush & dettol now.
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| Quote ="karetaker"What a disgrace,dont give me all that bull about finances,challenge cup final is just an extra game but thousands can turn out for that.guess all the glory hunters will be available if we get to the final.'" Why the hell should you be bothered over something that you have no control over with?Obvioulsy by the sounds of you your very irate hence the yet another dig at the fans who didn't go for whatever reason.Imo this constant dig at fans who have the free choice to attend is becoming boring to say the least.Why don't you write to the RL to say they missed a great opportunity to slash prices.A major overhaul is what's needed for the playoffs not thread after thread about so called glory hunters.Rant over.
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| Quote ="Wirefan"You see I'm just not buying this money is tight lark. .........
man utd best hope this recession doesn't strike in Manchester or they are gonna be loved.
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I have heard Adverts on the radio advertising tickets and Hospitality for Manchester united home games for the first time Ever....maybe money isnt as free and easy as you think.......
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