changing ends at half time, walking on the pitch! My god can you imagine the outcry if we tried to do that now! Health and Safety would have a baby!..stay off the yellow lines people!

Is it that simple ?

Presumably there is some factor (winning, attractive rugby) that causes an increase to the ST numbers. That same factor would perhaps also apply to non-season ticket holders.

So a guy that attends 4-5 matches may like what he sees and go to 7-8 matches the next year (rather than buy a ST) . Or someone reads about the success of the club and decides to try a couple of games, or is persuaded by his son. Or somebody may start watching Sky RL and see Warrington doing well, and decide to go to a live match.

So I suspect the reasons are in fact quite complex when you start to look into it.

I have the attendances as the list below with an average of 11,452, unless I've gone wrong somewhere;

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Compared to 2002 our average was 6189, including some terrible lows of 4190, 4416 and 4667.

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Only because people like you view it as such finishing top of league is still the hardest of all trophies shield to win, Its only devalued by SKY and those brainwashed into thinking it doesnt matter. lets face it the GF is just the same as say the regal trophy.

Oh and you have to play them games to challenge for a play off spot to be in contention, Do the qualifying rounds to the cc not mean anything because its only the final that counts ??

Get a grip people

Anybody new to RLFans should be given a SC warning....

looking at those figures I am surprised at the low figures for the visits of Wigan, Bradford, Hull and especially Leeds.

I have been saying for a while now that we need to be doing a lot more in the marketing department. It seems to me that most fans are from 'Warrington proper', with very few from the new town areas. This is something we should be targeting, get people who have moved to new areas like Chapelford along and capture their imagination. Like with Bullmania we need to make the Halliwell Jones the place to be, rather than just sitting back and hope the good football on the field will sell itself.

I think some people are overplaying the 'gift' of the Widnes game, take the 2k extra away and our average would still be higher than last year. By less, obviously, but still an increase...
We've been at the HJ nearly ten years, and we've almost doubled our Wilderspool averages, but as others have said, there's always more that can be done. However, times are hard, travelling support is down, so any increase should be applauded...

Wakefield should be commended for getting their crowds up this season, they have done a brilliant job.

The best way to increase attendances is to keep winning and add at least one Super League title to our CV. I always said throughout my teens that I never felt Warrington was a " proper" rugby town in the way that Wigan and St Helens were, because despite Wire being the only professional sports club in the town, I always felt RL was second to football in popularity whereas in Wigan and St Helens it was the other way round.

The key difference was that their teams were more successful than ours so more people were interested and wanted to watch them. I reckon there will be a bigger than 6% increase in season ticket sales next year if people are buying them to watch the champions. Success breeds support.

Hull is a long way, while Bradford were potentially a few days away from dissolution. Wigan and Leeds were both on Sky, along with 4 other home games (I looked them up earlier). We had 12 games on Sky in total, 6 home and 6 away, with Leeds next on 11. Both times we played Widnes were on Sky, which seems like an odd decision...

Wakey have increased their crowds this year- what have they won? Of course silverware has that affect but we need to build upon it and turn casual fans into regular faces. Not just that, open the game up to people outside of the town or sport. I remember when I first went a few years back, as a sport RL is very cliquey, where as if you go to a soccer game it is attended by people from all over, for many it will be there only game of the year. Make it a day out and people will come.

One of those was a round where every Super League game was on Sky, Widnes away isn't on TV.

My point is perfectly valid and I mention my personal circumstances only to highlight the point. Though as earlier on this post, I think promoting the club further south should be a priority for us, we are definitely 2000 light considering our success.

30 miles south of London and yes I drive, like the hundreds of thousands of footy fans every season, I travel. I'm not having a pop at people who can't make it, I'm saying if you don't simply because you have something else more trivial to do then you should think again. I spoke to a Warry fan the other day who didn't go the last home sky game because he'd rather have a few beers at home and watch it on telly, thin end of the wedge in my opinion.

Good work Matt. That shows we achieved increases against nearly all our opponents.

I think the London figure is down because there was a big promotion for last year's match with free tickets etc. Still, for the first game of the season it's a shame we didn't get a few more in.

The Leeds figure is particularly poor but I think that demonstrates cross-pennine matches on Friday nights in dodgy weather is not a good idea.

The Hull FC one is the stand-out though - can't quite work out that one as I seem to recall they brought a decent number over, can't believe the away fans could drop by that much.

The Catalans drop might purely be down to that one being on a Monday night. Even so, it was still only a couple of hundred below games against the likes of Leeds, Hull and Huddersfield who really ought to be bringing alot more than Catalans do!

The other disapointment is that Wigan wasn't a sellout. I missed that game myself due to holiday but could see from the TV that the home areas were not 100% full - what was the away end like?

Still, increases in 10 of our 13 home games and an increase in overall average. Quite good, but could do better I think.

One further thought - hopefully with so much spare capacity, the club will recognise this is not the time to be increasing prices. A prize freeze and a big push to get another 1000 through the doors regularly is surely the way to go.

I think the Catalan game was well attended really especially for our first Monday night match & considering the away following for Catalan never seems to be much more than a mini bus full. The Wigan game was a ridiculous time 4 45pm when most people are having tea.

Th wigan game was moved from the Sunday too, i was going go it originally then the bugger moved it to Saturday, if it had been half 5 or a 6 kick off i would have just made it but 4.45 was too early.

The Wigan game was a few days after Saints away - after which we more or less knew we would be LIKELY to end up second in the table regardless of the result that day - and Wembley was on the horizon so people were saving dough. It was also televised.

Given all those factors I thought 13,800 was a decent attendance - a sell out would have been less than that last year.

Competitiveness always makes an impact too. I knew I couldn't go V Huddersfield last week no matter what because I was out of the country, but Widnes away this week brings about a dilemma. At the start of the season (or indeed immediately after their promotion was confirmed) if you had asked me what fixture I was most looking forward to this year I would have said "Widnes away". However, now it has come around it is a meaningless fixture, and we've got two home play off games to come plus hopefully the Grand Final, and possibly an away match too depending on week one and two results. I won't be missing any of those games (appropriate days off work were booked months ago so I'm safe no matter when we play) but that makes a dead rubber at Widnes in the meantime an expense I can do without. I might still go, but I might not either. We'll see.

Surely it's understandable why anyone would choose to swerve games - home or away - for cost reasons when they have little or nothing riding on them though? Saville Row wouldn't obviously, because he's a true fan, but I'd wager the crowd on Sunday - and the travelling support in particular - isn't as big as it would have been if we played this fixture earlier in the season.

Does anybody know if we get some sort of financial compensation for televised home games ?

We have been televised an awful lot this year.

If you do go, will you wear this? it's boss lar

That T-shirt + medal = Saville Row's match day attire.

How much impact do the televised games have on attendance? If someone had solid figures you might be able to put a case for some compensation. I've gone through my list again though, and we don't have the most home games, I accidentally included our Magic game. Here's the list to bore everyone with:

Televised Games (inc. Magic games as Away for all)
Warrington = 13 (5 home)
St Helens = 12 (6 home)
Leeds = 12 (5 home)
Wigan = 11 (6 home)
Bradford = 9 (5 home)
Hull FC = 9 (3 home)
Hull KR = 8 (3 home)
Wakefield = 7 (4 home)
Widnes = 7 (3 home)
Catalans = 7 (2 home)
Huddersfield = 6 (4 home)
Castleford = 6 (1 home)
Salford = 5 (2 home)
London = 4 (2 home)

I'm wondering if I have a Cas game the wrong way around, as shouldn't there be at least 2 home games for each team?