Personally, and I'm probably not the only one on here, there is a definite sense of trying not to panic at the moment.

I've been happy enough to go along with the whole 'playing poorly/still winning' line and the 'look how Leeds did it last year' thing too, but if we are being honest, then its fair to say there is a bit of a rot set in at the moment, which needs stopping pretty rapidly.

Performances are getting worse, certain individuals are way, way off form and some are looking, I hate to say it, a little old and past their use-by date.

I'm sure Tony Smith has it all in hand, but at this point in time, I'm a little worried that there are 3 or 4 sides who are just that bit stronger than us at present....Not that there is much in it - A sudden change in form and we might just be back to our exciting best, however, at present, I'm probably half empty, rather than half full.....

We need to go back to basic rugby league.Leave the fancy stuff out.

if we'd have cut out the silly penalties,the game might have been a lot closer today imo

It is the basics that we are not hitting on, a few players are a little out of sorts.. nice to see Myler getting stick on here even when he went off early on!!

It's April and nothing is won now and three games is all it takes to finish top dogs of SL

But some players are getting close to the end of there careers, but I think we have enough coming through the ranks to stop worrying, nailing season tickets to trees, even throwing our shirts on to the pitch!!

Didn't think ball control was too bad today in the shape of rauhihi moves. As I've said elsewhere I'm very VERY worried about our inability to defend.

I don't know if we've gone into this season attempting lo replicate what Leeds did last year but that's a dangerous game to try. also if it's some weird way to get some 'harder' games than last year, it's not working

next 6 fixtures (league)
22nd april castleford home
6th may salford home
20th may wakefield away
26th may widnes at etihad
3rd june HKR away
10th june leeds home
im sure we will be well and truly firing after these games and the opening to the season will be all forgotten

A few things for us to remember;

1/ We are not as good as we think.
2/ Every team needs 2 half backs on the pitch at any 1 time.
3/ Our pack is too old.
4/ o Brien is our hb alomgside Briers.
5/ This hammering has been long overdue
6/ Anymore trips to Australia should be scrapped
7/ Hodgson's best years were at Huddersfiels, and yet, he is still 1 of our best playes.
8/ Westwood ( alongside Nat Woods) has been our best signinging in the last 20 years.
9/ We miss Louis Anderson......see number 8.
10/ Smith, by his record, will not be here next year.
11/ Catalans are a very under-rated team, and in Scott Dureau have ( Alongside Young Sam at Wigan) the best ball-playing-thinker in the game
12/ Bridge is a Hb and not a centre.
13/ Myler should be immediately given back to Widnes.

The team is going nowhere fast, and quickly becoming the Man City of RL.

Won a packet today, but that was bloody annoying.

deary me

GOB didn't actually play today.

Get a grip for god sake

A few things i agree with

1/ We are not as good as we think.
2/ Every team needs 2 half backs on the pitch at any 1 time.
5/ This hammering has been long overdue
8/ Westwood ( alongside Nat Woods) has been our best signinging in the last 20 years.
9/ We miss Louis Anderson......see number 8.
11/ Catalans are a very under-rated team, and in Scott Dureau have ( Alongside Young Sam at Wigan) the best ball-playing-thinker in the game

No mate, wake up and smell the ribena.

Please don't tell me you have not seen a hammering coming. Maybe you should turn your back on the game when the opposition have the ball. As a fair few on this site obviously do.

Bit of perspective needed I think. The game, for me, turned on two or three incidents. When Bridge broke and sent a poor pass out to Monaghan, he could easily have stepped inside the defender and gone in himself. Would have put us level at least at that point. Instead, we soon had the farce at the other end where Monaghan and Hodgson between them contrived to let the ball bounce resulting in Anderson's try. Thus a ten point HT deficit rather than parity or even a small lead.

Also, Pryce stopping Hodgson from grounding was a big moment. The fact the Dragons scored three times in the last ten minutes put a bit of a gloss on the scoreline for them - it was a closer game than the margin suggested, though they were undeniably the better side.

Warrington do look disjointed at present, that's for sure, but I don't think there's any disgrace in getting beaten by a decent-looking side. The next three SL games are eminently winnable - six points from these fixtures will see us on 21 points after 14 rounds. Which is one more than at the same stage last season...

Agree with some + others not but some valid points nevertheless.

Certainly Wigan and Widnes just didn't show enough ability to take advantage of our bad play and slip-ups, unlike Saints who pretty much took full advantage. We were beaten by a better side today, and whilst we didn't play well, there won't be many sides who get anything out in Catalan this season based on what I've seen today.

I thought the post a few above might be a wind-up but now I'm not so sure.

I think you're worrying needlessly. Our defence early in the season was awesome, it only seems to me to have slipped in the last couple of weeks which is more a result of being knackered after a run of Wigan - Saints - and an Easter weekend trip to France rather than an inability to defend.

Wire will be just fine. Come June time all these gripes will be a distant memory.

eer nope, but when you bet a lot on rl, you cannot afford to be blinkered

I'm not blinkered, betting Cats -2 or scratch today looks like a great bet on paper considering the past few weeks, fair play if you took it up.

Doesn't mean all your points were valid though.

In hindsight that was stealing money but foolishly i honestly thought we might just nick it.A tipster i am not

Spot on post...

What are your thoughts then ?

Is this the Mark M blind faith " we will win trophies under Cullen " rallying call redux ?

Here's a thing for you to remember. You're entitled to an opinion, but don't come shouting the odds especially when your chatting out your backside. Yeah we're playing poor at the moment. The team (the 17 on the field, not just Richard Myler) are making errors, poor defensive reads, falling off tackles, dropping the ball, poor passes, etc. and because of that lacking a bit of confidence. Individual errors at the end of the day. This can be, and I'm confident it will be, corrected come the business end. You can't play at 100% every week.

Win as a team, lose as a team. They all still get my backing (Still have a pet hate with Higham but I will concede he's been good for us this year).

IN SMITH WE TRUST

it's only 6 months (approx) since Wire were the best team in the country, thrashing most teams.
Not a crisis yet, just surprising. Can't remember the last time you got 'well beat'.

You seem to forget conceding 30 points at home to Wakefield in mid-March.