We were certainly playing in primrose and blue hoops in 1965-66 which was my first season watching. Photograps of the 1950 team have them wearing very narrow p + b hoops, whilst the four trophies in a season 1953-54 team wore the white shirts that you invariably see pictures of Brian Bevan in.

That's half the problem....We have different kits for different periods - You could add Jonathan Davies in Primrose and Blue, to your list of legends in the predominantly white kits - At least with Wigan, Leigh and Oldham you actually associate a consistant colour, even if they are all the same!!

I guess my point is that we should stick to one regular pattern and colour scheme, and looking from opinions on here, that Primrose and Blue hooped effort looks quite popular

Predominantly Primrose rather than Blue would give us more of an identity

Thats a top shirt. I dont know why all cubs dont just go back to the retro design like Wigan have this year, its what the fans want.

Although the '74 white shirt is my fav, maybe its the game not the shirt and tend to agree with The Flying Biscuit I also like the idea of of a shirt predominantly primrose with blue hoops but as a matter of interest when was the last shirt that featured primrose as opposed to yellow?
We have had all shades of yellow, from primary, to acid and the 70's 'W' shirt was nearly amber.
I think primrose is paler than the yellow featured on any of the shirts that I have seen but stand to be corrected

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Take your hand off it mate, Wigan will be back to a crap shirt next year. If you stick with a 'classic' design, folk won't buy one the next year so they have to keep changing it around. That's why you ended up with a nice pink one last season.

Just a quick note to thank you all for the help. We now have a couple of shirts being sent to us by a couple of stars on here. As soon as we get them mocked up we will post on this forum with details of price and how to pre order. We are doing the 91 shirt and also a short sleeved version of the 70s shirt, though the latter will be limited stock initially, unless we get a few pre orders for this. Thanks again lads

i will have two one for me and one for my lad if you do kids sizes.

Any idea on the price. Seems to be a big variation on your website. Would it be of any benefit if a few of us pre ordered, then you could bring your costs down?

Perhaps I'm just too old but for me the iconic shirt is the one I remember Brian Bevan wearing when he was in his pomp and I was a boy. I doubt you'd be able to get hold of one but it was a long sleeved white shirt with a narrow primrose hoop, a broad blue one and then another narrow primrose one across both the chest and the arms. There is a picture of it (in black and white) on the fornt of 'The Great Bev' by Robert Gate. We've had some great players but Bevan was something really special.
I've always felt that the primrose in that shirt really was primrose and not just a generic yellow. The blue seemed different from the recent ones too.

Perhaps it is an age thing. It is difficult for somebody as young as me to appreciate how iconic that shirt is to you. it is as you say the one they wore when you were a lad.

I wonder which shirt will be my son's iconic shirt? The one the great Briers played in when he was a lad. Will he be on here in fifty years time harping on about a blue, black, white, yellow, white and yellow and blue, green and red, or black and red shirt?

Of the last few years it will be the white vestas top from the final.

There are certain players who are remembered in certain shirts. The Brian Bevan shirt is the one you mention, the Alex Murphy shirt is the 74 Cup Final one (that Pemps did a few years ago), the John Bevan one is the all blue one with the blue shirts (everyone who saw him remembers the Bev salute wearing the all blue kit), and the Mike Greg shirt is the one from Wembley 1990.

When i think of Briers i think of the Tetley asics one that both him and Langer played in.

Shirts and players! There's a theme.
We're all biased but we all love The Wire. The only thing I would say is to look in the record books under Brian Bevan and tries scored. Get someone to look in a hundred years and it'll still be there, on top, by quite some distance.

I'm probably slightly younger than wires4ever but the Bevan shirt he describes is the one I grew up with in the sixties but we also used the primrose and blue hoops also worn in the fifties by Bevan/Bath/Helme etc. and either of those would be my choice. The trouble these days is that the shirt is changed every year, but then again most soccer clubs do so every couple of years. However, my point is that United still wear red shirts/white shorts, Liverpool red shirts and shorts, Everton blue shirts/white shorts, they have a brand identity that may see changes in style of shirt but the basic colours remain. We don't know from one year to the next whether are we are going to be predominantly white or blue or hoops or even stripes! Maybe we should have a concensus as to what WE think should be our brand identity and stick with it with the main design being recognisable year on year. I hate to say it but Wigan's kit this year is absolutely stunning, you could stick a picture of Tomkins next to one of Billy Boston and they would both be recognisable as Wigan players, if only we could do the same with Briers and Bevan.

Yes LG, when I saw this year's Wigan shirt it really took me back. The simple designs are best and a recognisable look every year would be great.

When I had this conversation with my youngest lad tonight (he's 19 and at Uni) he was stumped because he's seen a different shirt every year so can't really tell me what a Warrington shirt should be like. Sadly, he knows that Saints wear white with a red V, that's a recognisable brand that changes slighty every year but is constant and can be be marketed anywhere, we need to find out what we want to look like and take it from there.

OK, we haven't got a consistent design BUT - we are Primrose and Blue, P&B. Loads of team are variations of red or blue or red and white etc in both football and rugby. But who else is P&B? THAT is our brand. I love the variety and would hate us to settle on one style.

Agreed. It's a fact of life that clubs need to make money, and a different style of shirt each year is a certain way of making it. P and B is certainly the Warrington brand, same as Wigan are Cherry and White (although that pink affair last year looked like it had run in the wash), and the absolute classic at Hunslet, Myrtle, White and Flame.

JD thanks for the swatch of what you propose is primrose (looks a bit bright yellow to me) but I said I would stand to be corrected. I agree with Teeside and SEB we should be proud of the primrose and it should be distintive from any old yellow and be a constant. Much in the same way that Blackpool FC are the Tangerines and any old oranges wont do..."Three cheers for the Yellow and Blue, hip hoooray", just doesn't cut the mustard with me.

Our home kit should be like Boca Juniors' home kit; distinctive and consistent. Away kits matter little, a reverse would be nice but there won't be much money in producing two of the same kit every year.

Just have a cycle so you know what year the design will be, have hoops, stripes and a V on a 3 year cycle.

HY isnt that part of the problem, surely a good start would be to have a definative set of design rules to start with? The Club could look at the archives and ask the fans to get involved. In your system, if Saints alternated from a 'V', to hoops, to stripes they would end up with Stoke City shirts via Wigan, I'm sure they would be pleased