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| I can't fault anything that any Wigan fan has contributed on this thread. Is Riley good? yes, very good- but Charnley is better imo.
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| Charnley looks like he will end up in the centres for me. He reminds me of Bridge to a degree; good, close footwork, with an eye for the gap. Where he needs to up his game, massively, is defence. Not the physicality, but the reading of the opposition attacking lines. Reminiscent of Atkins in that respect.
So, in summary; this appears to be a comparison of a winger, who is more of a fullback, and a winger who's long term future is at centre.
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| Ginger hair or 1970's Barnet hair.
I'm gonna pass on this one
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| Quote ="just_browny"With his present haircut, Charnley would fit in better in my all-lesbian pop band.'"
Charnley on drums
Hernandez lead singer
Lead guitar?
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| Think they're both nothing better than back up players ! so why isn't their a Neither if you mean first choice because neither would from my point of View get into a Wire first choice team !
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| Charnley will most likely be an international player sometime in the next 12 months, and i'm afraid Riley is quite some way off that level.
Albeit, the ginger winger is a great squad player for us and never lets us down wherever he plays, but he just doesn't have the x factor that Charnley has.
Riley has a better haircut tho
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| Quote ="The Punisher"Charnley will most likely be an international player sometime in the next 12 months, and i'm afraid Riley is quite some way off that level.
Albeit, the ginger winger is a great squad player for us and never lets us down wherever he plays, but he just doesn't have the x factor that Charnley has.
Riley has a better haircut tho
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Staying with the current premise that he is a winger, I can't see him displacing Briscoe or Hall in the next 12 months. Throw Ben Jones-Bishop into the equation and it muddies the water even further.
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| Charnley. That was easy.
The guy couldn't read one of those books with massive print for old people (as in he can't read a game defensively) but imagine the damage he would do in the best attacking team to ever play super league!
It would be scary to watch the damage that him and bridge would do.
The bigger point is that Riley is a fullback and a great winger and is being groomed for the former (I believe) I think that the cover that Riley gives us (being top class in two positions) is invaluable. Also, if Charnley is moving to centres he really needs to work on his D. He won't have the line to help him further in and he may leave his winger with WAAAAY too much to do!
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| Ginger V Bubble Perm....... Tricky.... Very Tricky
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| Quote ="PADDERS"Think they're both nothing better than back up players ! so why isn't their a Neither if you mean first choice because neither would from my point of View get into a Wire first choice team !'"
Not sure if I should comment on your point of view, but have a look at the try scoring record of both players. I'm quite happy with Chris Riley, proven try scorer and will never let you down.
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| Quote ="21-12"Charnley by a mile, he creates his own chances and has the ability to beat a man and make chances from nothing, look at his try in the CC quarter final against Wire. Riley is a decent finisher but has been blessed playing in the best attacking team in the league outside a quality centre.'"
I wouldn't say by mile, though you are right that Riley is helped by playing in this present Wire set-up.....Riley playing in the Wire side of 10 years ago would be about as effective as Dean Gaskell.
However, in the world of salary cap rugby, Riley is invaluable....Covers several positions and is reliable without being a superstar, which from the wage perspective means he won't ever be a huge strain on the budget.....Conversely, if Charnley turns out to be as good as Wiganers reckon he may do, he will soon be earning big money and taking up a fair portion of their cap.
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| Just from watching on TV, he just needs to be careful Charnley that he doesn't believe his own hype. Against Leeds he was celebrating hugely, daft hair flopping around etc, bit of a jig and all that.
Of course there's nothing wrong with the above, if it's just enthusiasm great, Kevin Penny used to be much the same.
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| as good as Riley has done for us in the games where hes been picked over the last couple of years i still dont think hes in either of our first choice wing spots and if were going off potential then i believe that Rhys Evans will be as good if not better than Charnley. Evans also still has 18 months on Charnley to get better! both players have that step in their game which can change the complexion of the game completely, whereas Riley is just a very good squad player.
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| Quote ="Saville Row"Riley for guts and heart, Charnleys a pre madonna already plus he's an embarrassment in defence.'"
What on gods earth is a pre madonna??
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| Quote ="DANN"What on gods earth is a pre madonna??'"
Cyndi Lauper?
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| Quote ="DANN"What on gods earth is a pre madonna??'"
The immaculate conception before the immaculate conception?
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| Also remember Charley is still only 20, and Riley is 23. As for versatility, Charnley played a lot of his academy RL at centre and played there when he was on loan at HKR. It'll be interesting too see if Wigan try him in that position when King or Roberts are fit. He's certainly the best young winger in the game IMO.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Also remember Charley is still only 20, and Riley is 23. As for versatility, Charnley played a lot of his academy RL at centre and played there when he was on loan at HKR. It'll be interesting too see if Wigan try him in that position when King or Roberts are fit. He's certainly the best young winger in the game IMO.'"
Better than Tom Briscoe? Alright then. Always known you were pretty clueless, but you've reached new levels of stupidity.
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| Quote ="Mark"Better than Tom Briscoe? Alright then.
Always known you were pretty clueless, but you've reached new levels of stupidity.'"
I would say that Charnleys strike rate of 31 tries in 33 Superleage games is better than Briscoes 34 tries from 54 Superleage games in the period from 2010 wouldn't you? and he's younger.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I would say that Charnleys strike rate of 31 tries in 33 Superleage games is better than Briscoes 34 tries from 54 Superleage games in the period from 2010 wouldn't you?'"
That's all the confirmation I need.
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| Tbh I'd also have Charnley over Briscoe. Incidentally both are players who should be in the centres rather than on the wing. Briscoe should have become a top player but Hull have done nothing with him.
However I disagree with Rogue's assessment that Charnley is certainly the best young winger in the game - Jones-Bishop is a more natural winger for me and rapid.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I would say that Charnleys strike rate of 31 tries in 33 Superleage games is better than Briscoes 34 tries from 54 Superleage games in the period from 2010 wouldn't you? and he's younger.'"
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| Not read the thread but would be suprised if anybody picked Riley ahead of charnley. Charnley is a far better player.
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