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| Today i woke up on top of the [delworld[/del league
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| Well done , it's a piece of silverware that acknowledges that you have finished top of the table, but as others have said it means nothing in the grand scheme of things , 5 times teams have finished top and then not won the GF, you don't see or hear of those teams being mentioned as champions..
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| Genuine congrats. As I said last year, it means a lot in terms of achievement. Best team over the season. Simple as that. For me Play Offs a different comp, although I know technically it isn't. Well done and hope to see us both at OT for a beltin final. best two teams in league. Also, good to keep all silverware on right side of pennines. "Have you ever seen the wire win the league and Grand Final, have you ****." Not quite got the same ring.
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| Quote ="Spurry"Well done , it's a piece of silverware that acknowledges that you have finished top of the table, but as others have said it means nothing in the grand scheme of things , 5 times teams have finished top and then not won the GF, you don't see or hear of those teams being mentioned as champions..'"
You are correct but what this means to Warrington is that this is the first time in SL or modern day rugby that the Wire have been topped the league and with such a dominent attack and defence record. Although the biggie is the grand final it will always show in our records. I'm sure Tony Smith and the players know the task ahead.
From where we have come from over the last decade this is hopefully a stepping stone to the next level to where the Warrington Wolves aspire.
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| To answer the question, no. You haven't won the league. The champions are crowned in October. Imagine what you felt last night and multiply it by about seven thousand. Once you win the Grand Final (This year or next IMO) you will mock the hub cap like everyone else does.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"To answer the question, no. You haven't won the league. The champions are crowned in October. Imagine what you felt last night and multiply it by about seven thousand. Once you win the Grand Final (This year or next IMO) you will mock the hub cap like everyone else does.'"
Bang on the money
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| Sam Tomkins must be able to predict the future then, his gesture at Leeds fans was simply and indication of where Wigan were to finish in the league!
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| You've won the league once, in fifty-odd years,
You've won the league once, in fifty-odd years,
You've won the league once, in fifty-odd years,
Coz Wire are a massive club.
Means nothing unless you win the final.....according to you lot last year anyway
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| we don't win a trophy for years we win back 2 back cups but we're crap because we haven't won the league, we win the league but "it doesn't mean anything" because we haven't won the grand final ffs get over yourselves! gf or not we won the league pure and simple, regardless if we get to o/t or not
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| Quote ="Saddened!"To answer the question, no. You haven't won the league. The champions are crowned in October. Imagine what you felt last night and multiply it by about seven thousand. Once you win the Grand Final (This year or next IMO) you will mock the hub cap like everyone else does.'"
No honestly, we have won the league I can assure you. We now have to win the play off series that follows the league.
Will it feel better to win the GF, of course. Does it feel good to see my team win the regular season for the first time since 1973, yes. Does it satisfy me that we've beaten the teams in direct competition for that title home & away, yes. There's lots to feel very proud of this year and also lots left to achieve at the same time.
We've now won silverware for 3 consecutive years, that's progress for Warrington without question.
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| Quote ="the original stevo"we don't win a trophy for years we win back 2 back cups but we're crap because we haven't won the league, we win the league but "it doesn't mean anything" because we haven't won the grand final ffs get over yourselves! gf or not we won the league pure and simple, regardless if we get to o/t or not'"
stop kidding yourself, you'll be devistated if you dont win the actual Super League now.
In 2005 Bradford won Super League, but who won the League Leaders?.......Exactly.
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| Quote ="ArcticGorilla"stop kidding yourself, you'll be devistated if you dont win the actual Super League now.
In 2005 Bradford won Super League, but who won the League Leaders?.......Exactly.'"
i won't be gutted at all i'm more than happy, bonus if we win the gf
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| Quote ="the original stevo"i won't be gutted at all i'm more than happy, bonus if we win the gf'"
Ah right, didnt realise the League Leaders was the real trophy and the Super League is the bonus prize. Silly me.
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| Quote ="ArcticGorilla"stop kidding yourself, you'll be devistated if you dont win the actual Super League now.
In 2005 Bradford won Super League, but who won the League Leaders?.......Exactly.'"
Firstly, you're a petty, bitter and jealous idiot; that doesn't know the first thing about rugby.
Secondly (and without checking and I may be wrong) I think st helens are immensly proud of winning the league in 2005 just like when they did in... 2008 (I believe)
We won the league! That is it! You're pettiness doesn't change that. I would say see you in october but I firmly believe wigan probably won't make it there.sts is a tough game.
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| Quote ="jdrocket"Firstly, you're a petty, bitter and jealous idiot; that doesn't know the first thing about rugby.
Secondly (and without checking and I may be wrong) I think st helens are immensly proud of winning the league in 2005 just like when they did in... 2008 (I believe)
We won the league! That is it! You're pettiness doesn't change that. I would say see you in october but I firmly believe wigan probably won't make it there.sts is a tough game.'"
Not a clue about rugby me. Only played it for 10 years. Not a clue.
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| Some wigan and saints fans are showing themselves up to be extremely bitter here. Fingers in ears, la la la, I'm not listening, this isn't happening.
It my eyes we've just completed a 27 game league season. We won more points than any other team and finished at top. This says to me we have won the league and will receive
some silverware for doing so.
In 93 Wigan won the league and Saints won the Premiership.
The rfl acknowledged that winning the league was the greater of two and rightly so.
Fast forward to 2011, we win the league and the playoff winners are yet to be known. This time the rfl with the backing of sky deem that the pay offs are more important.
When are fans (football and rugby) going to stop letting sky dictate how they think about the game.
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| Quote ="the original stevo"we don't win a trophy for years we win back 2 back cups but we're crap because we haven't won the league, we win the league but "it doesn't mean anything" because we haven't won the grand final ffs get over yourselves! gf or not we won the league pure and simple, regardless if we get to o/t or not'"
If we win the GF the same sad bitter trolls will be on here saying.."you've never won the world club challenge"...
Basically we are top dogs at the moment and they don't like it...
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| Quote ="MikeyWire"If we win the GF the same sad bitter trolls will be on here saying.."you've never won the world club challenge"...
Basically we are top dogs at the moment and they don't like it...'"
Not at all. You havent won the league. The 27 weekly rounds are now a jostle for position going into the playoffs. Teams know that and no longer approach games in the same way. For example Smith lets Morley miss the game yesterday so he is back for the play offs. Under the old system of first past the post being Champions he would not have done that.
Had it been first past the post Wire would have won even more points no doubt and would probably have won the league. But its simply not like that anymore, you are not Champions for finishing top. You are crowned Champions by winning at Old Trafford in October in the Grand Final. The weekly rounds just make the route easier.
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| i dont think we've won the league, cos we haven't we've finished top of the table in the pre amble.
That said, the performances and consistancy we've shown in finishing top is worth being very happy about, especially when you consider where' we've come from.
Consistancy and progress.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"For example Smith lets Morley miss the game yesterday so he is back for the play offs. Under the old system of first past the post being Champions he would not have done that.'"
The man had eye surgery on Monday, he wouldn't have played yesterday in any scenario I'd imagine! TS knew we had more than enough to get past Hull last night to not risk Moz.
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| Well it didn't take long for some people's [itrue[/i feelings to come out did it??
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| Congratulations on winning the LLS.
You will be Champions if you win the GF on Oct 8th,not taking anything away from you guys it is a fantastic achievement and well done.
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| Champions. If not, do we just discount all of the other leagues teams have won because the format has changed? i.e Wigan have won two championships and not nineteen. Pathetic, petulant fans unwilling to give a team they hate doing well any ounce of credit. I don't give a flying one what Wigan, Saints, Kym Marsh, Jonny Vegas, Uncle joes mint balls think. Warrington Wolves are 2011 League champions, and nothing you can do or say can change chat. The next step is to become Super League grand final winners.
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| Quote ="William Bonney"Champions. If not, do we just discount all of the other leagues teams have won because the format has changed? i.e Wigan have won two championships and not nineteen. Pathetic, petulant fans unwilling to give a team they hate doing well any ounce of credit. I don't give a flying one what Wigan, Saints, Kym Marsh, Jonny Vegas, Uncle joes mint balls think. Warrington Wolves are 2011 League champions, and nothing you can do or say can change chat. The next step is to become Super League grand final winners.'"
Sorry mate nobody is trying to talk owt away from you! I'm a rhino I don't mind the wire(always want ts to do well) but you are well wrong. The champs are the guys who win GF night. Same as NRL if you don't win GF night you arnt champs end of.
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