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| Quote ="Colin_Fishwick"Next weeks game means very little apart from helping to decide who wins that pointless league leaders shield.'"
What a stupid post. The league leaders get club call if they win their first match. So finishing 1st is very important.
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| come on everyteam has a scrote ,great player though !
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| hes a little scroat..in his short spell in super league hes done this kicked out at cunningham,gone in with the knees on a few players caused a rumpus at the dw when solomona gripped the little s**t....we all know he has the talent but hes a horrible little scroat..
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| Quote ="Josh90"Sure the BBC will get a lot of complaints, people sit there looking for this sort of stuff to complain about so the RFL might get an earful from them.'"
Apparently the BBC have had loads of complaints about him. Maybe people sat at home on a Saturday afternoon don't particularly expect or want to see a two fingered salute watching the BBC
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| I thought it was a disgrace, doubt anything will come from it though possibly just a fine. I don't think it deserves anything more
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| He was just signalling to Richards to take the extra 2, Honest Red Hall honest
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| So much for the 'Water of a ducks back' crap that he's been spouting...
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| Are there any examples of a similar nature in the past that have gone to the RFL's match-review panel? If so maybe ST can expect the same 'punishment'
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| He stuck two fingers up, big deal. I'm sure the leeds fans behind the try line were simply congratulating him and his team on the try and were by no means goading him.
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| Definition of misconduct 1. A player is guilty of misconduct if he:
uses offensive or obscene language.(g) disputes a decision of the Referee or Touch Judge.
behaves in any way contrary to the true spirit of the game.
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| he will simply say it was just the camera angle he ment nothing by it. the rfl may ask him to say sorry. end of story.
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| Quote ="silver2"Definition of misconduct 1. A player is guilty of misconduct if he:
[uuses offensive or obscene language.[/u(g) disputes a decision of the Referee or Touch Judge.
behaves in any way contrary to the true spirit of the game.'"
With respect, that would apply to virtually every single player. And the majority of any given RL crowd.
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| Can somebody PLEASE explain the difference between what Sam Tomkins did today and what Lee Briers did when we played Leeds in the playoffs in 2006?
Surely we want Tomkins to be playing next week? We’re not going to win the GF by hoping that we get the best players banned from every team we face.
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| Quote ="adriancmr"Can somebody PLEASE explain the difference between what Sam Tomkins did today and what Lee Briers did when we played Leeds in the playoffs in 2006?
Surely we want Tomkins to be playing next week? We’re not going to win the GF by hoping that we get the best players banned from every team we face.'"
number of fingers involved, i would've thought that was obvious.
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| king got all 5 in at Quins
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"king got all 5 in at Quins'"
where will it end? fisting?
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| It would have to be a double fisting though, ouchy
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| that sounds like something for both tomkins brothers.
not something i want to see, but out of curiosity i'll put myself through it.
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| Just listen to yourselves for christ sake !! You sound pathetic, childish and jelous !
Mods do we really have to tollerate this drivel ??
Double 'kin standards (see above posts re LB)
So you don't like him ? So what ! Why not chat amongst yourselves in McDonalds car park or wherevre the chav-children meet these days instead of littering this forum with your inane rants and drivel
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| Quote ="adriancmr"Can somebody PLEASE explain the difference between what Sam Tomkins did today and what Lee Briers did when we played Leeds in the playoffs in 2006?
Surely we want Tomkins to be playing next week? We’re not going to win the GF by hoping that we get the best players banned from every team we face.'"
that was 5 years ago, league moved on since then. nowt to do with wanting players to get players banned, rules of the game. think briers was alleged. tomkins nailed on
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| Come on everyone, let's calm down here
A rugby league player (face facts, they're not exactly known for their brains) makes a crude hand gesture....let's open the gates to the Tower of London and have him incarcerated.
It's been done before, it'll be done again.
I don't know why some want him banned. I bet these people have NEVER joined in in an abusive chant or shouted something abusive themselves at an individual player
My mind goes back to a league game v Widnes @ home in the run up to our Wembley trip in 90.
The Wids had just scored at the Railway end, and were walking back to the Fletch to defend the kick off, when the Fletch went into a chorus of "Emosi Koloto, he's a w@nker, he's a w@nker"...to which Koloto fiddled with his genetalia and pointed back at the Fletch...cue 1500 people wanting him tarred and feathered and fed to the lions....PATHETIC. If you can't take it, don't give it.
It's about time SOME people "grew a pair", and stopped getting so easily offended (especially when they've been abusing the players themselves).
Oh, and don't give me any of that old pony "there's kids watching". The kids are the worst culprits for the bad language on the terraces (when they're not too busy texting, or having their backs turned to the action)
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| Nah. Let's not calm down. Hangin is too good for him.
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| Quote ="worthing wire"With respect, that would apply to virtually every single player. =#FF0000And the majority of any given RL crowd.'"
And the RFL are supposed to do something about that. Hence the old "the HJ is a family....etc". According to a steward at one of the games, they have a load of extra forms they have to complete for the RFL if they see/hear any foul and abusive remarks from the crowd. It all comes on the back of the Equality Act a\nd also the problems Cas had with remarks made to Gareth Thomas
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| Left I agree with you to a certain extent. I enjoy a bit of banter and I like it when the people on the pitch give a little stick back (so I know the insults are really sticking). One of my faves is the recent Phil Clarke embarrassing himself at the south stand one. Also, deep down, I want him banned cause he is good. Players don't know what to do with him; including our defense. Lose him and, just like us losing monas, they really struggle for spark.
However, from an objective point of view, you are a little off. This isn't 5000 fat northerners egging on a player in a 100 year old stadium; where the onlt people who care if said player reacts are the few in the stadium.
Sam 'no brain' tomkins, on the biggest stage of the rugby league year, flipped the vs, to the camera that was right in front of him. From the bbc's perspective; there are many people. Not familiar with the match day experience, sat down eating their lunch with the rugby. You can be cynical if you want but it is illegal and bad for the bbc's image to have a ratboy swearing to young kids, tweeners and the elderly on a saturday afternoon. They will be annoyed.
From the rfl's perspective, the game, as I have said, is the biggest coverage the rfl and rugby league will get. National channel on bank holiday weekend. Their sole job is to get the highest viewing figure possible for that match. Having sam swear on that; when they are most open to the casual viewer, brings back old stereotypes of a gruff, working man's game; where the players don't really have manners. Which belies the great lengths thr fl have gone to to promote a family game and create an image of openess. As cynical as you are about the family values of rugby league, that is the gimmoick and they have to make sure stupid stuff like what sam did doesn't ruin that. It is a battle to convince people that rugby league is an intelligent game played by fit and cunning men in a safe enviromemt. We must rememeber that sam flipped the vs to a lot of kids etc in that stand who weren't even booing him. That's right he was being booed, so he reacted! Shame really!
Sorry about any dumb mistakes I am on my telephone and my eye sight is poor!
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| Bloody hell rogues has not commented on this thread yet im sure his expert opinion will be on here soon although im sure he will write something like tomkins didnt put the fingers up amd your allowed to do that on national television whats your problem?
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