Dont think it will really matter which side we pick, just dont see us getting anywhere near Aus on NZ, looking very poor sides.

Warrington would beat some of these sides you are naming, never mind the Aussies.

Your opinion that Lockers isnt good enough for this level yet still pick Crabtree and Broughton to name 2 is enough to confirm your clueless.

How many times is it now that O'Loughlin has been tried at test level and most of the time he's looked like a fish out of water or has been virtually anonymous ?

Broughton is one of the quickest wingers we have in this country, he won king of the sprints recently. He's scored some spectacular tries for Salford, what you have to remember with him is that he's playing in a poor side and most of the time he'll get poor service so he's done well to score as many tries as he has. Put him in a saints, warrington or wigan side and he'll score a shed load.

If we were willing to give that joker Peter Fox a run out at international level then Broughton certainly deserves a look, he can't look as clueless as Ryan Hall did on his last run out at international level.

As for Crabtree, he's certainly had the measure of us in recent games against Huddersfield before our win recently. Who do you suggest then, Ryan Bailey, Danny Ward, Lee Radford, Stuart Fielden ?

1. Tomkins
2. Briscoe
3. Welham
4. Bridge
5. McGilvary
6. Lomax
7. Brough
8. Carvell
9. Roby
10. Graham
11. J. Tomkins
12. Westwood
13. Harrison

14. Crabtree
15. Robinson
16. JJB
17. Wood

Sad that this is the best team I can think of right now lol.

tomkins
briscoe
bridge
atkins
jones bishop
widdop/lomax (probably widdop, give lomax another season experience first)
graham
roby
burgess
westwood
ellis
oloughlin

carvell
robinson
mossop
griffin/tomkins/wood (any of the 3)


kevin brown should be nowhere near an international shirt. he looks decent when brough is there, but its showed while brough has been injured, hes been anonymous.

Classic. You put Finch in your SL dream team.

O'Loughlins looked class when he played for England. One of the better players in beaten teams and in 07 probably our best overall forward

Tomkins
Foster
Bridge
Atkins
Briscoe/Hall (I don't rate Hall, but SMac seems to)
Widdop/Myler
Brough
Graham
Roby
Carvell
Westwood
Ellis
Burgess

Robinson
Tomkins/Westerman
Wood
Peacock

Surely Kris Welham is the form centre in SL?

But he's a turnstyle soo

For try scoring maybe, but as a complete centre, he is off the pace of Bridge, Atkins, Reed and Shenton. And sadly, all of them are miles off the pace of GI, Hodges, Kenny-Dowell, Tonga etc.

At least a 'turnstyle' would offer some resistance.

Bridge is the form loose forward in SL.

Am I missing something? Morley isn't in anyone's team !!!!

Has he announced his retirement, and I've missed it, or somet !!!!

Tomkins
Briscoe Yeaman Reed/Shenton Hall/Atkins/Foster (We need a goal kicker)
Widdop Myler/Brough
Morley Roby Graham
Burgess Ellis
Lockers
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Sinfield (interchange 9) Carvell Westwood undecided on the last prop. Mossop is looking good IMO.

Thats the problem we've had with past GB/England teams where a lot of the regular names at international level were picked on name rather than being picked on their current form, the 2 best props in the league in recent times have been Carvell and Graham.

I wouldn't pick Moz on the bench as he's more of a starting prop than an impact prop, you want quicker more agile players to come on from the bench once the initial sting has gone out of the game to take advantage of players not being as fresh as they were at the start, its the same reasons why you wouldn't want to start Ben Westwood from the bench as he's at his best when mixing it with the opposition rather than being an impact player.

Both him and Moz are relentless at what they do and they both do it really well, its just we have a couple of props that are in better form at the min and the England team should be picked on form.

Anyone even thinking of putting Foster in the England team needs to go for lay down..!
Fantastic goal kicker and thats it...

He's got great footwork.

Absolutely brilliant finisher with good footwork too. Has more pace than people give him credit for but certainly doesn't have genuine pace like Briscoe.

Not better as an overall package then the likes of McGilvary & Briscoe who I think are better. Personally, I'd have him over Ryan Hall but I wouldn't pick him for the England team at this stage in his career.

tomkins
hall
bridge
foster
atkins
brough
myler
burgess
roby
graham
westwood
peacock
o'loughlin

robinson
ellis
morley
crabtree

Why aren't people putting Widdop in there? Been fantastic for a side thats near the top in the NRL.

Tomkins
BJB
Bridge
Yeaman
Briscoe
Widdop
Brough
Graham
Roby
Carvell
Westwood
Ellis
O'Loughlin

Lomax (as hooker/half back)
Morley/Mossop (if AM manages to return this year)
Crabtree (he has troubled the Aussies, and although he hasn't been great this year I can't think of any other decent props that would be likely to cause even a little bit of trouble)
Joel Tomkins (offers some utility in the backs as well as being a pretty decent 2nd rower!)

Obviously no burgess as he's injured, and I don't know much about the centre playing in the NRL who qualifies for us.

IMO, the only spots left for consideration are the centre positions, Yeaman is untested and Bridge isn't secured in the side yet.

BJB and Briscoe should be our wingers, two quality young talents. Although BJB is inexperienced, he just seem to have that extra bit of quality than the likes of Hall (imo)

1. Tomkins
2. Briscoe
3. Bridge
4. Atkins
5. Ben Jones-Bishop
6. Widdop
7. Brough
8. Morley
9. Roby
10. Graham
11. Ellis
12. Westwood
13. O'Loughlin

14. Carvell
15. Burrow
16. Myler
17. Peacock

I think we can safely say that it does not pick itself.

S Tomkins
Foster(he's won me round in the past couple of months)
Bridge
Reed
Jones Bishop(class act and physically up to it)
Widdop
Brough
Graham
Roby
Peacock(I'd retire him but Morley may not be fit and we need a leader)
Ellis
Westwood
O'Loughlin

Subs
Mossop
Carvell
J Tomkins
Robinson

It's a shame that it looks as though Morley could miss out and Burgess is already ruled out. I'd give Jack Reed a crack as he can't be any worse an option then Shenton. I'm not sure Tom Briscoe is up to the task physically and would go with a couple of bigger men in Foster and Jones Bishop.