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| thing is about Benjamin W, and all the other hits we're doing at the moment, no other pack is standing up to us, that hit that he did on Keith M last week, not only did he put him on his westwood was up on the ball and as Keith was up and walking back he got an arm in the throat, from Benjamin who was prepared for retribution of some kind, what did keith do, mouthed off slightly and went and got back in teh defensive line.
Likewise versus Saints RL the other week, our captain Adrian did that high tackle on Louis M-S, and what did the Saints RL players do? all.
you'd expect Joel T to do so, but he's not hiding and trying to bully three quarters now.
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| Quote ="Bilko"I agree. Bench impact doesn't exist at our club I don't think. But they are (and I'm not pointing this out as a dig) a Grand Final winning pack and currently top of the table so they must be making up for the lack of a impact leader by being a proper good solid unit!
For me it's a no loss move for Wigan. If he turns out poor we can afford to drop him because he is only a short term signing. If he plays well then you cannot substitute for experience of having won an NRL Grand Final and played a couple of origin games. If he's does as well as Quentin Pongia did in his short stint here I'll be delighted!'"
Secretly play with a transferable blood disease?
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"The Way Benjamin W is playing at the moment i don't think i'd want to take the very first set up with him running at me.
He's playing like a man possessed and putting in some huge hits. Like you say Garreth and Adrian will take it to them.
Louis, Simon and Benjamin H are also capable of some big hits, scary pack we have.'"
But again, i hark back to last year, Jeffrey L was being hyped up to be the scary enforcer that the wigan pack was lacking last year, hasn't happened, but, you can't deny its an efficient and effective set of forwards that gets the job done.
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| Again it wasn't a criticism, like i said they are all solid and do a job but none of them have a fear factor, in fact the hardest hitter you have is Thomas L a hooker/scrum half, Benjamin Cross is/should be the nutter, especially when he faces up against his mate at Saints if you play them in the PO.
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"Secretly play with a transferable blood disease?'"
If he plays as well as Quentin Pongia did, thats fine by me! None of my business!
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"thing is about Benjamin W, and all the other hits we're doing at the moment, no other pack is standing up to us, that hit that he did on Keith M last week, not only did he put him on his booty westwood was up on the ball and as Keith was up and walking back he got an arm in the throat, from Benjamin who was prepared for retribution of some kind, what did keith do, mouthed off slightly and went and got back in teh defensive line.
Likewise versus Saints RL the other week, our captain Adrian did that high tackle on Louis M-S, and what did the Saints RL players do? love all.
you'd expect Joel T to do so, but he's not hiding and trying to bully three quarters now.'" I seem to recall Scott Moore coming on and putting it about that was the time of the game you team went into hiding and crumbled
We are not a massive pack but out forwards get very quick play the balls something which yours doesn't
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| Quote ="king warrior"I seem to recall Scott Moore coming on and putting it about that was the time of the game you team went into hiding and crumbled
We are not a massive pack but out forwards get very quick play the balls something which yours doesn't'"
you really do make yourself look stupid sometimes.
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| We don't play the ball quick?
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"you really do make yourself look stupid sometimes.'" Please tell me your saying when Moore come on and ruffed it up the game didn't change?
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| Quote ="Wire_85"We don't play the ball quick?'" I didn't say that i said 'our forwards get a quicker play the ball than yours' due to their size
Mossop atm is bouncing up off the deck and teams are getting punished for it
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| Quote ="king warrior"I seem to recall Scott Moore coming on and putting it about that was the time of the game you team went into hiding and crumbled
We are not a massive pack but out forwards get very quick play the balls something which yours doesn't'"
the first bit is true, i had forgotten about that, but it was scott moore and only scott moore who had a ten minute purple patch, lewis maccarena scarisbrook was more interested in un screwing morley's head off, jimmy graeme was crying like a girl and god knows who else was out there.
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| Quote ="king warrior"I didn't say that i said 'our forwards get a quicker play the ball than yours' due to their size
Mossop atm is bouncing up off the deck and teams are getting punished for it'"
wont against us, our 8 secoind play the balls are better than your 7 second play the balls
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| Quote ="king warrior"Please tell me your saying when Moore come on and ruffed it up the game didn't change?'"
momentum swings happen all the time in games.... i was actually referring to your claim that your pack gets very fast play the balls and our doesn't.
To make a statement like that you obviously don't know what you're talking about.
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| Really, discussing Ben Cross and whether he'll be any good at Wigan is like trying to sensibly discuss who'd you length first, Kim or Aggie?
You could discuss it for ages but still end with 'definately not', then start to discuss Kim & Aggie.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"momentum swings happen all the time in games.... i was actually referring to your claim that your pack gets very fast play the balls and our doesn't.
To make a statement like that you obviously don't know what you're talking about.'" Why not your forwards are bigger it will take them longer to play the ball
I was having this argument on our board the other week about size v speed in forwards both have good points and some have bad points like you wont get the same impact off a smaller forward but you do have the speed
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| The thing with Wigan is you play a structured attack or in other words watch enough videos work it out.
We play instinctively, probably why teams struggle with reading our attack.
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You could discuss it for ages but still end with 'definately not', then start to discuss Kim & Aggie.'"
Kim, massive bangers and always acts a little bit kinky, Aggie being a jock would make me pay for the taxi in the morning which isn't on.
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"The thing with Wigan is you play a structured attack or in other words watch enough videos work it out.
We play instinctively, probably why teams struggle with reading our attack.'" Rubbish you really think Smith says go out and do what you want?
You go out every week with what Smith wants you to do and thats why it's working you was more than likely doing that when Cullen was in charge
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| Wrong, from his own mouth he said [slight paraphrase here "i don't do anything on attack i let the guys figure it out for themselves.
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| We are the Wire attack we'll do what we want.
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| Quote ="king warrior"Rubbish you really think Smith says go out and do what you want?
You go out every week with what Smith wants you to do and thats why it's working you was more than likely doing that when Cullen was in charge'"
Yep, he just says "Do what you want, but don't get them shorts dirty, you've got to wear them again tomorrow."
Then we go out and put sixty on someone with little fuss.
Some weeks, he doesn't even watch, he just waits for the players to come and in say "Guess" ...
"64-6 .."
"Ooh, warm .. "
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"Wrong, from his own mouth he said [slight paraphrase here "i don't do anything on attack i let the guys figure it out for themselves.'" Do you really think that is happening?
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| Quote ="king warrior"Rubbish you really think Smith says go out and do what you want?
You go out every week with what Smith wants you to do and thats why it's working you was more than likely doing that when Cullen was in charge'"
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| LOL there isn even a 4 page thread on the Wigan board about this! (Yet)
Classic Wire fans.
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| Quote ="The Ginger Pearl"LOL there isn even a 4 page thread on the Wigan board about this! (Yet)
Classic Wire fans.'"
to be fair... 2 pages of the thread are King Warrior being wrong on many different things.
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