well, i think they'll average crowds about the 4,000 mark for most games apart from wire saints and wigan. win 2 games all season and leave nothing but a bad smell at the end of the season!

I'd try to pass off Fiddlers Ferry as a real ferry

Isn't that in Warrington now

Yes because you own the HJ?



I'd be more embarrassed that you've been in SL since day one yet still failed to mount a serious title challenge come the end of the season.

None. The place hums.

Yes, we do own the stadium.
Yes, we're mounting a serious title challenge this season.

What's your point?

Ermm more than you bring as it's right next to Warrington.

Is anybody really d who owns our stadium?? we will average over 6000 and im not to concerned were we finish next season aslong as we improve the season after!

Think about 5 or 6 thousand attendance, and as others have said, predicting the goals/likely position is pretty pointless until the team begins to take shape.

But I think keeping Betts in charge is a mistake and he'll be a big hinderance to Widnes next year.

If I was a Widnes fan... I'd wear a tinfoil hat to shield my thoughts from the RFL and their dastardly attempts to read their thoughts and screw the Vikings.

You should be. If you own the stadium then you have more access to different income streams.

True but why are Warrington fans concerned about this?

We're not concerned, we're belly laughing about how good it is to be rolling in the money.

On topic - realistically if they string some decent performances together and don't slip up in the cup to one of the sides currently handing them their on a plate then it's a success. Still we can still hark back to long lost days of jumpers for goal posts and such other bollox.

Widnes are3 currently the only team to have a SL license for 2012. However in about 4 weeks the RFL will announce which 13/14 teams will finish above them.

Why the people think we're jealous of spending the thick end of the SL era on the outside, looking through the cat flat at the proper teams is laughable.

All this ours is better than yours is silly,At the end of the day widnes warrington derby is back on !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is this a good thing ? hell yeah

Absolutely, I don't know a single Warrington fan who isn't look forward to watching those games and isn't delighted widnes will be in SuperLeague. I don't buy all this crap that widnes were harshly treated but you will be a valuable addition to the league.

However, you have to accept that the things have changed now. The days when you could sing 'you always win f*** all' at Warrington have gone and to counter that by referring to something that happened around the same time as the Berlin wall came down is tragic.

have I just read that right? A Widnes supporter saying that we are jealous of them? Is this serious?

Mr J. 20 has got delusions of adequacy Mark.

Shame as this thread had decent potential from the off until illusions of grandeur set in from the HJ wire folk... Oh well...

I think a great deal depends on the fixtures. They should begin the season with a good attendance (maybe 8k), simply due to the fact of being back in SL. If they play (and possibly win) a couple of their early games, many of the 'fans' will continue to go. However if the fixtures see difficult games to start with, and possible heavy defeats, interest will soon decline.

I'd be expecting attendances similar to last time in SL initially, 6,500 - 7,000 mark. We got 4,027 last week with 20 away fans for example in just a standard league game. May not seem a lot to you guys but for Champ is a huge crowd. Already got about 3,500 people signed up for season tickets next year 8 months in advance too.

League position? Won't be able to make decent guess til seen side in action but hopefully as a new team anything from 10th upwards would be a great achievement.

The 'illusions of grandeur' started with a Comics fan asking how much it 'hurt' Wire that Widnes won the WCC twenty years ago! Followed by the once-habitual silly sniping about the quality of the HJ.

Where's that that then? Miss first page poem and normal banter afterwards are they not teaching you to read yet in Chavington?

To be honest I'm not fussed that they're back in SL. Since we upped our game under our current coach we have a more than healthy rivalry with Saints & Wigan.

This is just like an annoying terrier that tries to shag your leg for attention. An annoying and irritating sideline to the important business.

You on about us to you or you to Wigan here then? Maybe one day you'll join the RL elite and understand how we work

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All day long I'd biddy biddy bum.[/i