Calm down dear.

Although I'm not ultra impressed with Lima I can't see why your bagging him to be honest, if you look at his stats they're quite impressive considering out of 13 starts most of them are from the bench.

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A lot of people are fed up of every thread turning into a "mah mah mah mah nar nar nar, but he's 30, over the hill, how many trophies blah blah.

So simply regardless of what you think keep your pecker in your pants, put away the tape and talk.

I'm fed up of getting complaints in my inbox and a lot of decent posters have stopped posting to the detriment of the site

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I would be very very happy with this signing.

Where is the tache when you need him.

Good capture by sir smith

Jealousy is a terrible thing rogues.

Top player, but it is another 30+ yr old to add to a fair few already. It's fine currently in the immediate future, but what if/when they will all have to leave within a fairly short period of time? That'll leave a large chunk of your side disappearing in one go?

We've got a bit of a similar potential scenario at Wigan this year, though possibly not to the extreme. We may be losing Deacon, Carmont, Coley all to retirement, as well as Gleeson (gone) and potentially Hoffman (NRL), that's a lot of experience to be ripped out of the team at once.

Lets judge him after a season,he could turn out to be the top player we all know he is.Or he could flop like past imports .

Our players around 30 all won't leave at the same time.... It will be a staggered process.... And we will probably replace them with excellent players if the current signing policy remains.... We have a good youth setup now.... And a few quid to bring in the players that the coach wants.

Happy days at the wire.

Who will he be replacing?

Probably Louis Anderson

The way i see it forwards are usually(not always) better at 27+
Having an old squad doesn't bother me as long as that old sqaud is always doing the business.

Any way from i gather Morley Is signing for Salford for next season.So thats one less 30+ on Wire books

But Anderson is only 26 or 27, why replace him with a 31 year old? Are there any good young forwards coming through in the U20's side?

Because he is leaving..... And smith is looking to improve the squad... Get a better player than the one that is leaving is obviously the way to go.... As you well know.

And as for young players.... What are you asking the question for when you know youth rugby inside out?

Stop trolling old man.

cos we can't make him stay if he wants to go.

you know, like your coach.

And Hoffman

Yeah Laithwaite won two man of the match awards for England u18s last season whilst 16 year old ex-Wigan scholarship player Ben Currie looks an absolute star at u20s this season and has already played for England u18s this season.

I won't even mention Ben Evans, who was the stand-out forward over the two matches against Australia for England u18s last season despite being still available at that age group this season, as he has been injured all this year.

But to be fair you already knew all this.

Maybe it's dementia setting in Paul.

louis is quality and knowone can doubt it and he will be missed, he has a had a top spell with us

weve got plenty of talent just coming in or are still very young rhys evans, ben evans, riley, cooper, obrien, blythe, myler, williams, ben harrison (not to sure) more will come when we need to replace quality with quality

Can think of a lot better players than Waterhouse of a similar age, Hindmarsh being one.

Don't rate Waterhouse myself.

Well Waterhouse is better than Tony Puletua so looks like we did better by missing out on Puletua if this comes off. Puletua would have been a decent signing but Waterhouse will be a quality addition.

I can see Waterhouse being very popular with our fans in the next couple of years, he ticks all the boxes for the things fans respect.

What? A lazy, wide running, older version of Joel Tomkins? That's all he is, no graft.

I hope he proves me wrong though if he does come.

I don't believe it's Waterhouse..signing!

Thats some statement and they are very different players.