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| Quote ="upsetzombie"Matt King is a better winger than anyone you have, he is also a better centre than anyone you have.'"
No he isnt, hes a good centre and a good winger, but Richards is a better winger, and carmont is a better centre IMO. If we wanted to sign him he would only be at centre, as if carmont retires we wont have any expirenced centres for next year.
Anyway id be suprised if he didnt go back to Australia, with the exchange rate being 1.53 last time i checked, it makes sense for someone with his sort of profile to go back home, as he would have plenty interest.
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| My thoughts are that there's more chance of platting snot. Matt King will not play for Wigan.
Bookmark it.
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| Quote ="shambawangy"No he isnt, hes a good centre and a good winger, but Richards is a better winger, and carmont is a better centre IMO. If we wanted to sign him he would only be at centre, as if carmont retires we wont have any expirenced centres for next year.
Anyway id be suprised if he didnt go back to Australia, with the exchange rate being 1.53 last time i checked, it makes sense for someone with his sort of profile to go back home, as he would have plenty interest.'"
i can only agree with you mate,
Even though it would be good to keep him.Im sure TS will get a player just as good in,
Will be hard to find but im sure there is 1 out there!
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| Quote ="shambawangy"No he isnt, hes a good centre and a good winger, but Richards is a better winger, and carmont is a better centre IMO. If we wanted to sign him he would only be at centre, as if carmont retires we wont have any expirenced centres for next year.
Anyway id be suprised if he didnt go back to Australia, with the exchange rate being 1.53 last time i checked, it makes sense for someone with his sort of profile to go back home, as he would have plenty interest.'"
Of course, everyone is entitled to their opinion. I mean your wrong, but you can have your opinion.
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| It will be worth it to see all the Wire fans reinventing history and deciding he was crap for us anyway, like Gleeson.
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| Quote ="shambawangy"No he isnt, hes a good centre and a good winger, but Richards is a better winger, and carmont is a better centre IMO. If we wanted to sign him he would only be at centre, as if carmont retires we wont have any expirenced centres for next year. '"
Nope.
Carmont is pretty average for me.
Richards is a good player, rather have King, apart from the goal kicking.
If he does sign for you, he will be an excellent addition who can play superb rugby in a number of positions.
Also i'd imagine you'd get him at a good price, rather than the amount Cullen is rumoured to have lavished on him...
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| King to Wigan nailed on
Tony Pulatua[sp nailed on for the Wire too.
Benji Marshal just wrangling over either a 3 or 4 year deal, nailed on.
Oh and Scully on boxing day
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| Quote ="upsetzombie"Nope.
=#FF0000Carmont is pretty average for me.
Richards is a good player, rather have King, apart from the goal kicking.
If he does sign for you, he will be an excellent addition who can play superb rugby in a number of positions.
Also i'd imagine you'd get him at a good price, rather than the amount Cullen is rumoured to have lavished on him...'"
While I think King is an awesome player and he was one of my favourites when he played Origin, those statements are rather laughable.
Carmont has been quality EVERY year he has been at wigan and has made the dream team. He showed his class during the WCC against the best players in the world and put in an awesome display against KR on sky. He is still doing it this season. He is the opposite of average, on this season form I havn't seen a better centre in super league.
Richards is the current MOS. Kings best position is centre but not a chance he could be picked over Richards for a wing spot.
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| Quote ="upsetzombie"
Carmont is pretty average for me.
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Meh, you dont watch him week in week out, although i guess the same could be said for me and Matt King. Best centre in the league this season for me, he makes players look average every week.
Quote ="upsetzombie"If he does sign for you, he will be an excellent addition who can play superb rugby in a number of positions.'"
If thats the case then why are you not trying to resign him? Is there some bad blood or something?
Quote ="Odemwingie"Richards is the current MOS. Kings best position is centre but not a chance he could be picked over Richards for a wing spot.'"
Indeed he wont (exiles game)
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| I can't see any truth in it tbh but would like to be wrong on that score. He's proved how good he is for you guys after a sluggish start and he'd be a fine replacment for Gleeson.
As for Carmont he's outstanding. He's probably going to leave at the end of 2011 which is a shame as he's having a stunning year. He's been a bargain of a signing for us and has been very good in all of his seasons with us but he's taken his game to a new level this year. I get the feeling it's because it's his last year and he wants to leave on a high.
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| Wow Carmont best centre in the league?
I mean wow.
Each to there own opinion i suppose we can agree to disagree...
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| Richards>King>Carmont
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"Richards>King>Carmont'"
I'd go for that if goal kicking was the part of it.
Mind you, as a player to have in your squad in terms of quality and versatility
King > any current Wigan back (except maybe Stomkins)
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| Take your Wire specks off, if you gave me the option right now to swap King and Richards i'd tear your arm off to do it.
Saying that if you have me the option of swapping Clarke for Carmont i'd tear your other arm off.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"i wouldn't be overly bothered if he does go to wigan... at the end of the day its all about the money.. i dont care if he said he will only play for wire.... if the pies offer him a 2/3 year deal, and offer more money than anyone else, I would expect him to go and play for them.
Anyway.....didn't we have the option on him for another season if we wanted to take it? If he leaves it will be because Smith thinks his cap space will be better spent elsewhere.'"
Its King that has the option to take up another year of contract with us, not the other way round. But he wants to go back to the NRL.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"i cant believe Gareth Ellis has signed for hull !!'"
He hasn't ! He just extended at Wests ! Jamie Ellis has just signed for Hull from Leigh though.
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"Take your Wire specks off, if you gave me the option right now to swap King and Richards i'd tear your arm off to do it.'"
I wouldn't.
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| Quote ="Paul2812"He hasn't ! He just extended at Wests ! Jamie Ellis has just signed for Hull from Leigh though.
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Yea I know... I was joking
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| Quote ="Lord Tony Smith"I wouldn't.'"
I wouldn't either. Richards' biggest asset is his goalkicking, and we have a top notch goalkicker this season (at long last).
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"Yea I know... I was joking'"
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| Quote ="The Ginger Pearl"quite a few rumours on our boards that he is in talks with Wigan.
Thoughts?'"
I've been looking round the other boards and can't see anything. Can you post a link please ?
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"Take your Wire specks off, if you gave me the option right now to swap King and Richards i'd tear your arm off to do it.
Saying that if you have me the option of swapping Clarke for Carmont i'd tear your other arm off.'"
Just don't agree mate.
Nothing to do with bias.
Richards very good player indeed. Without the kicking he is not that much of a force, and he wouldn't have won man of steel if he wasn't a kicker.
King is a better player all round for me
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| Richards won man of steel on goal kicking alone?
I don't think so, unless you think El Masri is the greatest rugby player ever?
He's strong, dominant, versatile, quick like King but he has that something extra.
If King had kicked as many goals as Richards last year do you think he'd have won MOS? I don't.
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Quote ="Paul2812"I've been looking round the other boards and can't see anything. Can you post a link please ?'"
Sure mate here it is: viewtopic.php?f=28&t=488177&start=945 It was posted a few days ago but I dont think many believed it then 'BackrowSaint' has also posted it today saying he heard it from the Wigan club and St Helens.
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Sure mate here it is: viewtopic.php?f=28&t=488177&start=945 It was posted a few days ago but I dont think many believed it then 'BackrowSaint' has also posted it today saying he heard it from the Wigan club and St Helens.
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| King is going back to Aus !
He told me himself not a rumour or speculation pure fact end of !
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