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| Quote ="SEB"You and a few others. I remember lots of rubbish on here about him wasting a squad spot and we should get rid of him. Delighted you have all been proven wrong.'"
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| Joel decision pleasantly surprised me the most, as for some reason i had a doubt that it would be a one year stint. 3 great signings, roll on a couple more...
Could someone confirm our quota and players though to end debate RE King going?
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| Quote ="Supreme Optimist"Not just King, it could be end of a few players career at Warrington. Generally heard rumours on the grapevine surrounding the future of Carvell, Clarke and Landerson. '"
Amazing that this all-knowing grapevine never had any rumours about contract extensions for J. Monaghan, Wood or R. Evans yet knows all about the future of the players you list.
Usual BS if you ask me.
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| Not A Warrington fan but pleasantly surprised and pleased to see Joel signing a 3 year deal with you, shows he isnt over here just to get away from Australia for a year whilst things settle down and fair play to him
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| Quote ="Ian 77 Redux"Fantastic news. Anybody care to dig up old threads from fans of other clubs telling us J Monaghan was only here whilst the fuss died down about his prank in Aus?'"
To be fair that was the view of a considerable proportion of Warrington supporters, who were saying Chris Hicks had been treated disgracefully to make way for a guy who was only here for a one year stay till he could resurrect his NRL career.
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| Good bit of news.If King decides to leave and Blythe keeps up his rich vein of form.Then we need not worry about finding Kings replacement.
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| Quote ="Fatbelly"I don't think it is the end of Matt's career with us, we are okay overseas quota wise. The stumbling block could be the size of the salary that Matt wants this time around. I am guessing that Joels new contract will be a good one for him.'"
I can`t see any way that we could keep Matt King as well as Joel Monaghan, the stumbling block at the min is the weak £, its going to make it very difficult for UK clubs to sign top Australian or Kiwi players due to how much the £ has fell against a lot of other currencies, it will also make it difficult to keep current Australians that are already here who are coming to the end of their contracts as they could earn a lot more in the NRL.
With the emergence of Matty Blythe and Rhys Evans we`ll have plenty of strength in the backline for next season so an import on big money wouldn`t be a priority, we could use the quota spot and money a lot better given the backs we already have. Matt King has been superb for us once he hit his stride but most players move on eventually in RL as thats the nature of most sports.
Great news on all 3 signing new contracts.
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| We could use it to bring back Sam Burgess
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| Awesome news. I did wonder about Mr Evans what with Union being all cashed up and all but it's good to see at least one club in SL has the ambition to keep the players they have developed.
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| Quote ="Rob Wire"With the emergence of Matty Blythe and Rhys Evans we`ll have plenty of strength in the backline for next season so an import on big money wouldn`t be a priority, we could use the quota spot and money a lot better given the backs we already have. Matt King has been superb for us once he hit his stride but most players move on eventually in RL as thats the nature of most sports.
Great news on all 3 signing new contracts.'"
Centre cover for next season - Bridge, Atkins, Blythe, Evans, Monaghan & Grix. We can use Matt's money in other areas if he does go which I think is likely.
Rather than disrupt the squad too much, spread the money around on improved deals for those on the fringes who warrant it and bring through a couple more from the U20's
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| Pleased about all 3. Particularly the long contract given to Rhys Evans.
On the subject of King, I can honestly say that his injury has proven that we can more than cope without him if he goes. He took a long time to show his value but eventually managed to prove his class.
But just goes to show how good we are if a player of his class is injured and the team haven't missed a beat.
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| Quote ="SEB"You and a few others. I remember lots of rubbish on here about him wasting a squad spot and we should get rid of him. Delighted you have all been proven wrong.'"
I remember the same being said about Bridge when he was having his injury problems...
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| To be fair to Joel he is on record as saying he would be happy to see out his career at Warrington if things worked out for him. So its good news.
I think if Matt was staying he would have signed last season when Monas senior re-signed.
At least he can say he honoured his contract to those who doubted him
But there are probably one or two more turns before the season is out
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Quote ="leagueorunion"Joel decision pleasantly surprised me the most, as for some reason i had a doubt that it would be a one year stint. 3 great signings, roll on a couple more...
Could someone confirm our quota and players though to end debate RE King going?'"
Summarised here:
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=475642
As far as I know, we have 5 overseas players (Hodgson, King, Monas, Monas, Anderson) plus Solomona (but he doesn't count as he was here pre-200icon_cool.gif and we will still be allowed 5 in 2012.
So, providing we aren't planning to bring anyone in, there is no quota reason why any of King, Anderson or Solomona would need to leave.
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Quote ="leagueorunion"Joel decision pleasantly surprised me the most, as for some reason i had a doubt that it would be a one year stint. 3 great signings, roll on a couple more...
Could someone confirm our quota and players though to end debate RE King going?'"
Summarised here:
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=475642
As far as I know, we have 5 overseas players (Hodgson, King, Monas, Monas, Anderson) plus Solomona (but he doesn't count as he was here pre-200icon_cool.gif and we will still be allowed 5 in 2012.
So, providing we aren't planning to bring anyone in, there is no quota reason why any of King, Anderson or Solomona would need to leave.
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| Quote ="SEB"
As far as I know, we have 5 overseas players (Hodgson, King, Monas, Monas, Anderson) plus Solomona (but he doesn't count as he was here pre-200icon_cool.gif and we will still be allowed 5 in 2012.
So, providing we aren't planning to bring anyone in, there is no quota reason why any of King, Anderson or Solomona would need to leave.'"
If Louis , Matt and Big Dave can stay then that is great news.
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Quote ="SEB"Summarised here:
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=475642
As far as I know, we have 5 overseas players (Hodgson, King, Monas, Monas, Anderson) plus Solomona (but he doesn't count as he was here pre-200icon_cool.gif and we will still be allowed 5 in 2012.
So, providing we aren't planning to bring anyone in, there is no quota reason why any of King, Anderson or Solomona would need to leave.'"
Cheers
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Quote ="SEB"Summarised here:
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=475642
As far as I know, we have 5 overseas players (Hodgson, King, Monas, Monas, Anderson) plus Solomona (but he doesn't count as he was here pre-200icon_cool.gif and we will still be allowed 5 in 2012.
So, providing we aren't planning to bring anyone in, there is no quota reason why any of King, Anderson or Solomona would need to leave.'"
Cheers
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| Hello all,
New to the forum, but have been reading for a while now.
Im Dan from Warrington and have followed the wire for a good 15+ years now.
Great news on the signings and now the big question of Mr King???
Will his departure leave the door open for an overseas half back to start to bed in with Briers being used in a similar role to the plan with Hodgson this year??
Would hate to see Louis go, got alot of good rugby in him!
With Widnes no doubt coming into SL next year have to agree that they could be sniffing around for the likes of Clarke.
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| Quote ="Hicks Is A God"Hello all,
New to the forum, but have been reading for a while now.
Im Dan from Warrington and have followed the wire for a good 15+ years now.
Great news on the signings and now the big question of Mr King???
Will his departure leave the door open for an overseas half back to start to bed in with Briers being used in a similar role to the plan with Hodgson this year??
Would hate to see Louis go, got alot of good rugby in him!
With Widnes no doubt coming into SL next year have to agree that they could be sniffing around for the likes of Clarke.'"
Why is everyone so convinced King is or even might be leaving? Just because the Aussie media speculated about it in the off season? They know as much about SL sometimes as Nosey Parker so I wouldn't believe every rumour they come up with. Anyone got anything solid to base his possible departure on?
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| Quote ="SEB"Why is everyone so convinced King is or even might be leaving? Just because the Aussie media speculated about it in the off season? They know as much about SL sometimes as Nosey Parker so I wouldn't believe every rumour they come up with. Anyone got anything solid to base his possible departure on?'"
I think he will go becasue he's what 30, and let's be honest isn't needed anymore we have enough good centres to live without him.
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| I honestly thought we would have heard by now re King, but you never know in reality. May still be mulling it over and seeing how he recovers first. The club may also be mulling this over. Alot of mulling there.
Wouldn't make a great deal of difference at the moment either way which says alot about our recent form and strength in depth. That said I'd be delighted if he said he'll be here again next year.
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| Quote ="Who are ya!!"I think he will go becasue he's what 30, and let's be honest isn't needed anymore we have enough good centres to live without him.'"
That's a different argument and a pretty new one. People keep saying they think he wants to leave without there being any actual evidence of that.
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| Quote ="SEB"That's a different argument and a pretty new one. People keep saying they think he wants to leave without there being any actual evidence of that.'"
I'm pretty good with body language, he always seems to subtley segway any talks of going beyond his contract, i'd love him to stay but i'd stake any reputation i have on him leaving at the end of his contract, it's just the little 'tells' i get from him.
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| Quote ="SEB"Why is everyone so convinced King is or even might be leaving? Just because the Aussie media speculated about it in the off season? They know as much about SL sometimes as Nosey Parker so I wouldn't believe every rumour they come up with. Anyone got anything solid to base his possible departure on?'"
I reckon with him & Louis, their families will have a pretty big say in their decisions, I know that's the same for most overseas players like.
Maybe Louis will want to see what Vinnie is doing next, if it's back to NZ for Vinny, closer to the family etc, he may consider following as they've always seemed pretty tight over here.
King settling (or not) seemed to be as much about his Mrs as it did him initially, so I guess it may work the other way now, if she's super settled then it might be enough to keep him, and then there's that cricket racket.
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| I think the idea that King is leaving is just because everybody assumes, probably fairly, that he is one of the highest earners in the squad.
Given that we have a fixed salary cap, and have had a number of young players who have enhanced their reputation in the last couple of years, plus some existing players who have signed new deals and will justifiably have been able to get increases, there needs to be some cutbacks elsewhere.
It's probably likely that one of the big earners is going to have to leave. Who will it be? King's contact is up, he's had an injury this year, we have other players in his position, plus he could probably get a good deal elsewhere.
I think signing Joel Monaghan for 3 years is a sign that King will be the one to feel the squeeze. Not necessarily that we won't offer him a new deal but that there might not be much left in the pot and he might be disappointed by what he gets offered to stay, and will know he could get a biggish deal elsewhere.
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| maybe he will join Widnes.....
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