In his book, Jamie Peacock commented on how Tony Smith had focussed on little areas of his game which even when he was already the best prop in SL at he time had improved his game!
Another Leeds player who shall remain nameless (what goes on tour stays on tour

) commented that "TS is flipping not nice person

but he would win us trophies" - 2 SL wins and 2 WCC wins later.........

you've got a brilliant coach who is starting to get the best out of your squad and continues improve it - and it's bearing fruit with success on and off the pitch!
Good luck and enjoy the rest of the season

If he's so good why's he not got a NRL gig?

If Richards and Maguire are so good, why are they at Wigan ?

Richards has won the NRL grand final.
Maguire couldnt get a head coach job due to there being none available time and his lack of experience as a head coach, but if you believe the press he could walk into a head coach job over there now if he wants.

Your excuse for Lord Tony Smith?

TOUCHE

He isn't going back to Australia.

My turn
Why isn't Richards still in the NRL or have plans to go back if he's that good ?
The guy in your avatar went back.

Doesn;t answer the question

Could quite simply go round in circles
NSW was only asking presumably because the thread is about Tony Smith being 'that good'

Neither did Yed to the original question

He is 'that' good as is Maguire and Richards but just because he/they aren't in Australia means love all.

Yes we all know Australia are better than us but that's like saying why is Rooney not in Spain ?

because he isn't is the answer.


If you or NSW can tell me/us why you think he isn't that good i'm all ears.

Richards has won the NRL Grand Final so probably wanted to win the SL Grand Final which he has.

Wigan is a skipping stone for Maguire to the NRL, hes not got a head coaching job in the NRL because of his lack of experiance which hes now gaining at Wigan. Alot of NRL clubs have apprently already been chasing him.

If that was the case then who's to say he won't go back now he's got an almost (you lost that recent 'freindly') full array of medals ?

Football is nothing like Rugby League.
I rate Tony Smith as a coach but as an Australian coach who's been in hotseats for 10 years now he would of got a job in the NRL if he was as good as some people on this thread are suggesting IMO
Done brilliant for Wire though, would of liked to see Paul Cullen stay a bit longer though

Probably... apparently... don't mean anything.

Lord Tony is [iTHAT[/i good. As i am sure McGuire is. As Yed says asking why they aren't somewhere is stupid. They just aren't!

He likes winning Challenge Cups

David Furner - Canberra. Ivan Henjak - Brisbane, Neil Henry - NQ Cowboys , Daniel Anderson - Parramatta. You have to have your together, if you want to come on here talking .

Add John Lang to Souths, too.

Oh yes; Brian Smith to Easts and Rick Stone stepping up at Newcastle.

To be fair GTMM he probably has only heard of Daniel Anderson.

Isn't David Furner married to Elton John?

The argument that 'if an Australian coach was any good, he would be coaching in the NRL' is a little bit odd. I have no idea if Tony Smith has ever been approached to coach in the NRL again (he has done it as an assistant of course) but I'd be surprised if he hasn't. Anyway, his track record in England is outstanding, that isn't diminished by the lack of an Australian experience to compare it to.

Anyway, as Warrington play in England, I couldn't give a tiny rats ass whether or not Tony Smith would be a success in the NRL or not. It's an irrelevance. As for how long he will stay at Warrington, I'd imagine he'll see out his contract and then leave - he would have put in about 5 or 6 years at that point which is a long stint. When he goes, the world won't stop turning.

His legacy will be the trophies (plural, even now it feels weird) but also the culture that he has helped to develop. Building a culture is something he is interested in, he said so himself on Radio Manchester t'other week, and that is what persists. Whilst we're handing out badges, we should also remember that it's not just the coach that builds success, it's the staff and players as well. Dare I say it, even supporters have a part to play.

The most pertinent point of course is this: Tony Smith has no desire to return to Aus and has made that very clear. He owns a farm near Huddersfield and has even become a British citizen. England is now his home and he has said he is very settled here.

This thread is just a typical argument my Dad's better than your Dad.

If your Dad was as good as you think why's he with your Mum? If he was that special he'd be on a yacht in the Maldives drinking champagne whilst being attended to by a supermodel. But no he's just with yer Ma. Anybody could get with her.

It's all there ever is on here.

It is and it isn't. The default response to a player being lauded is; can they do it in the NRL? I see no reason as to why the same doesn't apply to coaches. The rights and wrongs of such a standoint can be debated untile the end of the world.

no he's not, he holds a brittish passport, lives here and does not plan to return to australia, i think that solves the stupid question originally asked about why he does not coach in the NRL!

But I don't understand the logic, if you've been given a job in the NRL does that make you better?

Rank these coaches in order: Shaun McRae, Royce Simmons, Tony Smith, Michael McGuire.

McRae and Simmons must be the top two because they've had NRL head coaching jobs and Smith and McGuire haven't.

Whos a better player Ben Westwood or David Kidwell?
Kidwell because he's done it in the NRL if Westwood was any good he would have been there.

Whos better, Wigan fans, Denis Moran or Sam Tomkins?
Must be Moran because he played many games in the NRL you don't see Tomkins in the NRL now do you...?

As for Brian Bevan, he never got beyond reserve grade at the Roosters? Why did we build a statue of him, we didn't build a statue of Leon Felton?