Fat women having anything upto 7 kids is a career oppurtunity in this country. Its quite sad really.

Free money everywhere . . . . . . .

....Not quite. I've not actually bought a newspaper for a long time now. Waste of time.

The point of my comment, if you failed to grasp it, was that Live Wired's 10 point plan was the rantings of your typical UKIP-voting, Mail-reading individual....

Not at all Angry Pirate, I'm a Mirror, Racing Post reader. Im totally left wing from a political point of view.

You really believe that??.....Reading most of your points, you come across as an extreme right-wing nazi....



Without wishing to pick too deeply into them....As a 'left-winger', do you seriously believe that if a person loses their job that they have been in for over 20 years, through no fault of their own, then that person does not deserve some type of financial help from the state while they strive to find another job, especially in times like we are in at the moment?

Yes I do agree with that, especially considering the amount of taxes they have paid into the country.

irrespective of political stance, it's the total bone-idle sponging off the state and giving nothing back, that irks the vast majority. Add to that single mothers who will not work, claim off the state and promptly go out and have a "slagtag" tattooed on their body.

I know of 2 people who have not worked in over 20 years because they dont want to. Those 2 I could gladly see on the streets. They're officially classed as unfit to work, yet between them, have managed to knock out 6 kids with 3 different women!

On the other hand, I have a brother who has been out of work for almost 12 months, would do anything for a job and is 4 weeks from having his house repossessed.

Ok, I think most people would agree with you on that, though I struggle to see what somebody having a tattoo really has to do with the matter ( I have tattoos and have worked all my life??). I think you should have made it clearer in the first place.

By the way, could you just clear up how removing teaching assistants from schools and flogging kids red raw will bring about educational improvement?.....

But you are doing precisely what the Right do. Using one or two examples to demonise all of the unemployed, disabled, poor, etc etc. Classic Daily Mail.

Teaching assistants are an absolute waste of time and money. Bring discipline back into schools and the days of people being kicked or knifed to death will soon become a thing of the past. Give the power back to the teachers to teach and not to mollycoddle. No surprise to see that teenage crime has gone through the roof since discipline was abolished in schools in the 90s.

Teaching assistants are just there to help the teacher who cannot cope in the 1st place, and therefore should'nt be in the job in the 1st place.

I know of 1 headmaster who would quite happily sack 33% of his staff for incompetence if he could. Only snag is the union and the fact that most of those teachers are already on long-term sick!!

Take the warrington primary school that miserably failed the Ofstead report (practically impossible according to 1 headmaster). A few of those teachers left that school and got jobs in another primary school ( which unsurprisingly failed an Ofstead report the followin year).

11/ Abolish this "affordable housing" bo********s.
All this does is generate ghettos. Carrington Park, Lysander close and Sixpenny fields may look nice now, but wait 5 years till the council buys them up and puts the dregs in there.

apologies to the decent, hard-working, law-abiding people who already live there.

WTF are you talking about? TA's do a valuable job in the classroom helping out the children that are struggling thus freeing the teacher to concentrate on the rest. Or would you rather have the children who through a variety of reasons that struggle in the classroom to be left behind and forgotten like in the "good old day's"? I also know that the reason headmasters cannot sack any of the staff has naffall to do with unions and more to do with the fact that only the board of governers can appoint or sack teachers. I agree that there are some bad teachers in schools all over but that's where the headmaster should then be doing his/her job by either training issues or a referral to the board. You really are coming across as a little englander on this thread.

I'm baffled....I never realised that knife crime and muggings only started becoming common in the 90's??

Also, are you trying to say that a 8 or 9 year old child, of lower intellegence and with behavioural problems, would be better served, in the long-term, being flogged constantly or to receive the more focussed attention of a teacher and their assistant(s)??.....Personally, I'd go for the latter, unless you want a generation of battered, mentally scarred kids roaming the streets in years to come.

Just another thing too....You claim not to be an extremist, yet at the top of your 10-point plan to make Britain great again, you condone of a policy that Hitler was famed for..... That is the elimination of certain elements in society, just because you deem them to be unsuitable??

Hmmmm, what's that saying, if it talks like a Nazi......

tbf he does have a point..just look at the morons who dont work and have no intention of working who take all the handouts going will have tatoos(how much is one by the way??)as for the discipline side or should i say lack of it,it takes me back to my school days in the 70`s you knew which teacher was a soft touch and those that were`nt..you could hear a pin drop with the teacher that was strict.in todays society a teacher cant even touch a child for fear of being hauled up before the judge jury and execution...rather daft if you ask me...bring back a bit of discipline if you behave you have nothing to fear..

Yes, I suppose he does......Everybody with a tattoo should be treated as a social leper and all schools should get rid of their teaching assistants and have them run by discipline-obsessed masochists who are only happy when dealing out instant pain to 8 or 9 year olds....Yes, good points....

no..a bit of discipline does`nt harm or do you want them all growing into little scroats...

Schools are places of education, or should be......They are not places where adults can be allowed to dish out abuse to children.

Rather than intimidate the kids at an early age, shouldn't they be encouraged and nurtured into responsible adults by trained staff (staff who LiveWired wants sacking).....Of course, children will occasionally step out of line, but to think that beating them back into place is the way forward, is simply a backward, neanderthal way of thinking.

You mr pirate speak alot of sense.

Here's an option which i know works in the Channel Island. Rather than pay somebody say £50 per week (sorry I dont know the current levels so using this as an example), lets pay that person to do a days work on some social worl scheme (street cleaning, graffitti removal etc). Apart from a year when i was looking Ive worked all my life and have become so dispondent in recent years which mean that may of "the poorer members of society" are better off than me and my family.

As for removing TAs from classrooms, its NEVER gonna happen. They do so much work and actual teaching of the kids that removing them would mean that teachers would actually have to do some work.....NEVER GONNA HAPPEN!!!!!!

I'm guessing that as a child you got molested by a teaching assistant.

What about using the ex squaddies who have come back from Afghanistan and Iraq and struggle to get jobs on civvie street, lots of them end up either turning to alcohol or crime or in some cases committing suicide. They have that "Teach First" programme which trains graduates on a crash course to be teachers, gives them a couple of years teaching in inner city schools to learn skills, then sends them off to work in the private sector. How about make some scheme available for ex squaddies to teach them to be at least a TA and then allow them progression to go on to be a teacher if they complete further qualifications. Rather than having to spend money on having them in the criminal justice system why not give them an opportunity to use some of their skills in developing kids. Anybody who's been in the Armed Forces has got skills, discipline, routine, ability to think under pressure, cope with hostile situations, they would be perfect for a school environment, they would not put up with crap and the kids would have a level of respect for them.

We had a history teacher who was an ex Army officer, and all of the cocky wannabe bad boys who acted up in every other lesson, wouldn't dare go out of line against him. He didn't have the cane, he just had an assertive manner about him that you didn't question.

The real problem is having a one size fits all education system. People with 'learning difficulties' (a nice euphemism for ill behaved or poorly taught children) should not be in the same classes as those children that are simply brighter than them or have a greater thirst for knowledge (i.e. want to learn). It's not fair to either of them.

A proper school system based on the only really true fair test - ability - with a Grammar school at its head for the brightest, underneath which you'd have secondary moderns (with equal levels of investment - what didn't happen previously) and with real vocational / technical training for those children who clearly aren't academic so they can be trained to do something useful.
If a child has clearly been placed in the wrong school then there should be a facility to rectify that (having this kind of relegation and promotion would also ensure that children focus and perform.) In Germany, the grading of the child is done in agreement with the parents which seems a civilised way of doing it. The level of German spending on defence is a left wing red herring - education is the real reason for German economic success.

Allied to this cut down the ridiculous size of the 'University' sector. Most University's are nothing more than glorified sixth form colleges and have no economic value whatsoever. Spurning out thousands of students doing pointless degrees whilst piling up debt spending 3 years on the lash. The private sector also needs to step up and start taking in school leavers and training them in greater numbers to pick up the slack.

It's interesting that before we abolished Grammar Schools - the independent school sector was significantly reducing and the number of state schoool children going to Oxbridge was a significantly increasing percentage - and far greater than it is now.

To go back to the 'terrible cuts' - they are nothing of the sort - we'll still be spending more in 2014/15 than we are now. We spend more on housing benefit than we do the Army and Royal Navy together.
As a country we've been living in a fool's paradise - which if we're not to become a third world country in 25 / 30 years time has to stop and quickly.
The level of spending next year will be at the same level as 2007 - I realise the economy has deteriorated since then but you'd think the world was going to end the way some of the press have been talking or the likes of the Unions.

If you look at Asia and the growing economies there - we don't stand a chance. They work harder than we do for less money. As a country we spend more than we create yet have a population which seems to expect the government to do everything for it.

Summed up nicely by Langer7's ("made me want to wretch"icon_wink.gif comment about Duncan Smith's interview saying if there's no job in your town then maybe you will have to take a bus ride to get one in another town. What exactly is wrong with that? (Which is what he actually said about catching a bus from Merthyr to Cardiff.)

If you are in favour of high levels of state spending and a continuation of the benefits system then you should be quite happy with the current government.

It's only the idiot press that is perpetuating the cuts myth.

A few years back, I was on break duty at the London comp where I worked, standing by the gate to make sure the kids didn't go off site. Needless to say, a number of them would find ever more ingenious ways of bunking over the fence elsewhere so they could go for a fag. Anyway, on this particular day, a copper came up to me and told me that there were a few of our pupils smoking in the estate opposite. He wondered if I would be able to 'go and sort them out'. I wondered in return if he might not perhaps be able to do this himself, given that he was an officer of the law.
He tutted, and walked off

I think its a disgrace that child benefit is cut for people earning over £44,000 pounds a year.
What are they going to stash in their off shore tax free bank accounts now? they will have to get a bit more clever with their tax avoidance scams in future otherwise the Range rover will have to go.....

I know a bloke that has over a million quid in the bank and still gets the pensioners winter payment every year ...... he goes the bookies and sticks it straight on the horses.

funny how the chav type scroats get up peoples noses when all they amount to is owning a fancy track suit and a neat baseball cap...

My eldest son is autistic with complex learning difficulties and by no means ill behaved or taught poorly. He goes to a mainstream school where he works with a dedicated TA who works exclusively with him. With people like you about my son could never go to mainstream school and would be labelled unteachable. Dont put y comments on about children with learning difficulties unless you actually know what the f**k your talking about. People like you make me so bloody angry sometimes.

single parent earns just over £44'000 PA and loses child benifit. A family where both adults work earning £80'000 PA between them

Yes i can see which one can afford the range rover and offshore bank account all right.

The trouble is it would probably cost more than it would save if it was tested on a case by case basis. They needed to find a quick bench mark. Personally if you're moaning that you need the child benefit and you're hard up on 44k, you need to look where you're frivolously wasting your money.

It's no more unfair than buying a house, it's a lot easy with 2 incomes than 1 but 44k is a generous threshold, personally 30k should be enough.