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| Quote ="Wire_Yed"and put it on a battery
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Nice (in a Borrat style)
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| Quote ="Wire In The Final"Rather than start a new thread as i planned. Would like to say congratulations to the Evans brothers for helping the [size=150under 21 team[/size to win the league.
According to the reports it apparently totally down to them thus year, so credit where its deserved.'"
It is the under 20 team and it is not correct to say it was totally down to Ben and Rhys. They are both excellent players who play in a team of many excellent players.
Squadbuilder are proud to have supported both the u18's and u20's this season and will continue to do so.
Why not join [url=http://www.squadbuilder.co.uk/sqbwhat.aspHERE[/url and help us to give even more support
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| I always hoped kev would of made it at warrington. His try against st helens in the challenge cup a couple of years back was outstanding. Hugging the touchline and skipping by players.One of the best trys i have ever seen
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| loved watching kev play and when he was in the first team my favourite player just because he cna make them moment of magic dowb=n his wing like the one against saints don't think many players could do that.
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| I reckon he will end up a GB winger and come back to haunt us on many occasions. A mistake to release him in my opinion.
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| Quote ="Wire In The Final"Rather than start a new thread as i planned. Would like to say congratulations to the Evans brothers for helping the under 21 team to win the league.
According to the reports it apparently totally down to them thus year, so credit where its deserved.'"
What reports are those? Or is it another in your long line of abysmal attempts to be even mildly amusing.
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| Quote ="Ian 77 Redux"What reports are those? Or is it another in your long line of abysmal attempts to be even mildly amusing.'"
I was thinking the same myself Ian; I have all the reports on my computer and it certainly has been a TEAM effort!!!
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| good luck kev........... scored some nice tries but let some real howlers in too........will never forget gr8 try vs saints and also 20m tap last game of year 2009!!! good in an average team...a weak link in a team in the hunt for silverware.
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| So Mathers, Vinnie and Penny off the cap with Hodgson coming in.
Room for another signing?
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| Quote ="BigO"good luck kev........... scored some nice tries but let some real howlers in too........will never forget gr8 try vs saints and also 20m tap last game of year 2009!!! good in an average team...a weak link in a team in the hunt for silverware.'"
how did Matt king go in that average team by the way......!!
Penny didnt deserve the crap he got from his home town fans he's better off elsewhere.....
maybe When wigan Fans have a pop at us for not producing home grown youngsters the problem isnt our youth set up, its the fact that when they knock on or miss a tackle we give them a dogs life, yet when Aussie Test players do we let them off because they havent settled in....
thats one thing thats ruined my memory of penny's time here, the second is Cullen giving him such a big contract after his wonder season when he should have been just held back a peg or two, and the third is Tony Smith not wanting to bother with him.....
when Tony smith has fecked off, regardless of whatever he's won with us I'll always think what could have been.....
so to that I'd like to thank cullen for giving him a go and the times he goosed Gidley Gardner and Wellens and burnt off the superstar Chris Ashton just as he was being "johnny big balls and going off to union".
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| some of the responses on here are cringeworthy.... still the best finisher is super league?
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he isnt even the best finisher in the under 20's team.
some of you lot are living in the past... yes he scored some good trys when we were mediocre...
but he isn't good enough... you can dress it up how you like... salary cap.. whatever.... tony smith is probably the greatest coach this club has had... and he doesn't feel that penny is worth a first team contract... but hang on a minute surely all the other teams in super league will be waiting in the wings to snap up such a talented winger.. how could warrington let him go.
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"how did Matt king go in that average team by the way......!!
Penny didnt deserve the crap he got from his home town fans he's better off elsewhere.....
maybe When wigan Fans have a pop at us for not producing home grown youngsters the problem isnt our youth set up, its the fact that when they knock on or miss a tackle we give them a dogs life, yet when Aussie Test players do we let them off because they havent settled in....
thats one thing thats ruined my memory of penny's time here, the second is Cullen giving him such a big contract after his wonder season when he should have been just held back a peg or two, and the third is Tony Smith not wanting to bother with him.....
when Tony smith has fecked off, regardless of whatever he's won with us I'll always think what could have been.....
so to that I'd like to thank cullen for giving him a go and the times he goosed Gidley Gardner and Wellens and burnt off the superstar Chris Ashton just as he was being "johnny big balls and going off to union".'"
Biscuit I too was always in the pro-Penny camp but I think you have to respect Smith's decision here, look at his track record, he isn't a coach who discards young talent without a reason. Lee Smith, Ryan Hall, Ashley Gibson, Danny Williams, all these outside backs got their chance under Smith at Leeds, some did better than others, but at a big club like that he could have signed high profile players but he gave lads a chance just like he's given Riley a chance. He has obviously judged Penny as not good enough for the Wire time, time will tell whether that was the right call or not. I would rather Penny was playing first team rugby somewhere else, than everybody always wondering if he was good enough or not, as a squad player at Wire. I hope he goes well.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"Biscuit I too was always in the pro-Penny camp but I think you have to respect Smith's decision here, look at his track record, he isn't a coach who discards young talent without a reason. Lee Smith, Ryan Hall, Ashley Gibson, Danny Williams, all these outside backs got their chance under Smith at Leeds, some did better than others, but at a big club like that he could have signed high profile players but he gave lads a chance just like he's given Riley a chance. He has obviously judged Penny as not good enough for the Wire time, time will tell whether that was the right call or not. I would rather Penny was playing first team rugby somewhere else, than everybody always wondering if he was good enough or not, as a squad player at Wire. I hope he goes well.'"
Well put.
We have to trust TS, he's seen us right so far. If he named me in the squad for Saturday, I'd be nervous, of course, but I'd think 'there's a reason for this, just go with it.'
Bye Kev, good luck and thanks for the memories. '[iThat[/i' try alone at KR would do it, what a day..
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| Penny was a decent enough player going forward who had pace to burn, the one thing he lacked for me was the rugby brain. His defensive positioning cost us a few tries in the past, tries that a more steady winger would have covered easily.
Unfortunatly, in todays modern super league, pace is not really enough to qualify as a quality winger. Strength and size are key to be able to compete in that position.
All the best to Kevin where ever he ends up, his excitment and core skills were unfortunatly not backed up by his techinical side. Further coaching and 1st team game time will be key for him to improve further.
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| I think the 'rugby brain' is the real reason TS wanted rid.
I think back to the 2nd try against Hull FC on Friday, the Atkins/Riley interchange, you could play that situation over and over again and i firmly believe with Penny you wouldn't score any time, he doesn't have Rileys intelligence.
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| League Express this morning says that he's Wakefield bound.
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| Quote If he named me in the squad for Saturday, I'd be nervous, of course, but I'd think 'there's a reason for this, just go with it.' '"
I love that.
And i think every Wire fan would be happy you got the nod from TS.
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed"I think the 'rugby brain' is the real reason TS wanted rid.
I think back to the 2nd try against Hull FC on Friday, the Atkins/Riley interchange, you could play that situation over and over again and i firmly believe with Penny you wouldn't score any time, he doesn't have Rileys intelligence.'"
Unlike the score from kick off v Hull a couple of years ago where he passed inside to Matt King?
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| Quote ="magic piano"Unlike the score from kick off v Hull a couple of years ago where he passed inside to Matt King?'"
How am i meant to make a point against someone who can actually remember every try from every game they've ever been to.
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| Quote ="Paul Youane"So Mathers, Vinnie and Penny off the cap with Hodgson coming in.
Room for another signing?'"
I'm sure the posters on the Virtual Terrace will have the scoop before anyone else. After all, they do know how much each Warrington player is being paid......
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| The problem for Kev for me is that all the qualities he had that made him shine, we now have anyway, as they are a given under Smith. I used to love his enthusiasm, his desire, his passion, his pace. Without all that, you're just left with deficiencies.
At Wakefield, he'll be a breath of fresh air. Their fans will adore him, he'll chase everything, catch tonnes, miss some, clap, beat his chest, run very, very fast. He's all action, good & bad and it'll be great for Kear to stand back and say to the rest of them "look, this is what I want", he might not do everything right, but he'll do everything with everything he's got.
It makes Wakefield watchable again on TV anyhow, thank god.
It's upto Kev to shine now, and shine like a beacon. I hope he proves everyone wrong, like an Atkins who now makes Bradford's decision to let him go look ridiculous. There's plenty kicking around in SL, look at Jodie Broughton, not good enough for Leeds, he's made a good career move for him and his stock has risen, Penny should look at the likes of him and see that you can bounce back.
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| Quote ="Paul Youane"So Mathers, Vinnie and Penny off the cap with Hodgson coming in.
Room for another signing?'"
More then enough room for a good signing to wind up other teams again
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| Imagine if penny had played last week and made the attempted tackle that riley did that led to Hull's first try. There would have been a 6 page thread saying how crap he is at tackling. I believe the only reason smith isn't persevering with him is the salary he is probably on.
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed"I think the 'rugby brain' is the real reason TS wanted rid.
I think back to the 2nd try against Hull FC on Friday, the Atkins/Riley interchange, you could play that situation over and over again and i firmly believe with Penny you wouldn't score any time, he doesn't have Rileys intelligence.'"
did you ever look at Tom Briscoes try on Friday just gone and See Riley rush out and go high on Briscoe and get brushed off Easily resulting in Briscoe scoring in the corner...and think anything ?????
or have we all moved on from picking out wingers defensive errors now John Clarkes back in the side.....
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| Quote ="Moe syslak"Imagine if penny had played last week and made the attempted tackle that riley did that led to Hull's first try. There would have been a 6 page thread saying how crap he is at tackling. I believe the only reason smith isn't persevering with him is the salary he is probably on.'"
No he's just not Smiths type of player he could of played a few times this season but he played Rhys Williams instead also Rhys was given a new contract this season.
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