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| Quote ="Wires71"Blimey are you still bitter? Your loss to the Wire was 4 days ago now, move on - we have.'"
have you could've fooled me.....
tomkins tackle was 4 days ago
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| Quote ="karetaker"well see 1 from each of the hull teams copt a ban,and hull without calderwood and whiting for the rest of season,wont be any help to us when they play wigan this week
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But it will help us when we play them in out last home game of the season!
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| Quote ="klunk"have you could've fooled me.....
tomkins tackle was 4 days ago'"
But guess what? his hearing was today.
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| Quote ="mikej"But it will help us when we play them in out last home game of the season!'"
To be fair I was reacting to the news of his hearing which I understand was today.
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| Quote ="klunk"not anymore coz the game is so fast that lining someone up like in the 'old' days is too bloody difficult and leaves too much of a hole in defence.
it really wasn't that bad, do we really have to sound like the paranoid muppets following other teams?move
move on
Catalan next.'"
If Myler had suffered a fractured cheekbone would you be so sanguine?
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| Quote ="The All New Chester Wire"Before you all get carried away with the conspiracy theories, remember (i) Coley and (ii) Morley/Carvell at Cas.'"
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| Quote ="Wires71"If Myler had suffered a fractured cheekbone would you be so sanguine?'"
Obviously if that was the case it would have been mylers fault for havin a weak cheekbone and would have probably resulted in a fine and ban for richie
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Your avatar picture speaks volumes O'Loughlin got away with that one too.
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| Quote ="Wires71"Blimey are you still bitter? Your loss to the Wire was 4 days ago now, move on - we have.'"
What the hell has my comment got to do with us losing???
Read it again and you will see I was making a light hearterd reference to a couple of your guys who probably should have got a ban but didnt.
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| I e mailed stuart Cummings yesterday re this incident. my question being that i felt it should have been an 8 point try.
TBF stuart replied very quickly and pointed out that once the ball is grounded then play is 'dead' and a penalty can't be given, the 8 pointer comes in if a man is fouled in the act of scoring.
That poses the question that if say, i kick the ball in touch and play is 'dead' does that mean i can banjo someone without fear of conceeding a penalty?
I doubt it!
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| Quote ="Wires71"If Myler had suffered a fractured cheekbone would you be so sanguine?'"
no i wouldn't, be he didn't did he?
and like it or not that has a massive impact on the punishment received.
Would Carvell have got off if his forearm had smashed a cas face ?
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| Quote ="serge le forge"I e mailed stuart Cummings yesterday re this incident. my question being that i felt it should have been an 8 point try.
TBF stuart replied very quickly and pointed out that once the ball is grounded then play is 'dead' and a penalty can't be given, the 8 pointer comes in if a man is fouled in the act of scoring.
That poses the question that if say, i kick the ball in touch and play is 'dead' does that mean i can banjo someone without fear of conceeding a penalty?
I doubt it!'"
Lame response by stuart cummings, but what did you expect?
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| Quote ="klunk"Lame response by stuart cummings, but what did you expect?'"
He never replies to questions about referees though. No surprises there.
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| For heaven's's's's sake! He answered your question re the 8 point try.
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| Quote ="The All New Chester Wire"For heaven's's's's sake! He answered your question re the 8 point try.'"
Yes I know he has and i haven't said otherwise
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| Yes, sorry it was the follow ups to your post I was annoyed with.
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| No harm done, at least he may think twice next time.
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| Quote ="serge le forge"I e mailed stuart Cummings yesterday re this incident. my question being that i felt it should have been an 8 point try.
TBF stuart replied very quickly and pointed out that once the ball is grounded then play is 'dead' and a penalty can't be given, the 8 pointer comes in if a man is fouled in the act of scoring.
That poses the question that if say, i kick the ball in touch and play is 'dead' does that mean i can banjo someone without fear of conceeding a penalty?
I doubt it!'"
Anyway going back to a serious point, when I first saw that, I shouted myself that it should have been an 8 point try but if he's explained why not then fair enough. It's just a bit odd though that if it happened before he put the ball down, it could be a penalty, but if it happened a fraction beforehand, it's not. Either way, foul play happened so it should be punishable by a penalty, whether the ball was grounded or not.
As for banjoing someone off the ball, I'm assuming that if there is no act of attempting to score and the play goes dead, then you batter someone, I guess that will be construed as unsportsman like conduct, so you probably would end up conceding a penalty.
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| I once asked Stuart Cummings about Billie Jean. All I got was some gumf about who she's 'not his lover' and is apparently just a girl who claims that he is 'the one'. He then muttered something about a kid but I switched off.
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Joel Tomkins report is a load of rubbish. He says that "he tried to pull out of the tackle but feels he was already committed". i don't see how this could be true as it happened 2/3 seconds after the grounding. Then when he states "He was attempting to stop his opponent getting the ball down and is seen to accelerate when he realises his opponent doesn't ground the ball immediately" it makes me wonder how he expected to deny Myler from scoring by dropping down with the forearm on his face. Finally the "He doesn't feel contact was made with the head/neck of his opponent and attempted to bring his forearm down away to avoid this" makes me wonder if he has seen it again when he clearly makes contact with the head on Myler.
Terrible decision from the RFL IMO, but there isn't much we can do to change it...
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Joel Tomkins report is a load of rubbish. He says that "he tried to pull out of the tackle but feels he was already committed". i don't see how this could be true as it happened 2/3 seconds after the grounding. Then when he states "He was attempting to stop his opponent getting the ball down and is seen to accelerate when he realises his opponent doesn't ground the ball immediately" it makes me wonder how he expected to deny Myler from scoring by dropping down with the forearm on his face. Finally the "He doesn't feel contact was made with the head/neck of his opponent and attempted to bring his forearm down away to avoid this" makes me wonder if he has seen it again when he clearly makes contact with the head on Myler.
Terrible decision from the RFL IMO, but there isn't much we can do to change it...
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| Quote ="oli30045"
Terrible decision from the RFL IMO, but there isn't anything we can do to change it...'"
Edited for accuracy.
Let's get over it, eh?
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| Quote ="worthing wire"Edited for accuracy.
Let's get over it, eh?'"
Fair enough, I'll accept that...
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| Hopefully Lauaki will bring justice to the case and drop him on Friday then eh?
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