Is that the one in your head? The one that all the know-it-alls on RLFans would see Wire battered by HMRC? That one?

We don't cheat.

Unlike some.

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Scott Montgomery says...
It's good to see that Melbournes blatant disregard of the rules has been dealt with in such a manner that will hurt the club in all the important areas, however i do feel for the fans. I also think that it's only a matter of time before a certain SL club gets found out for breaking salary cap rules!

Who's this guy accusing

I do find it funny when fans of clubs who have been found guilty of doing it point the finger at the ones who haven't.

Looking at clubs with a track record for blatantly ignoring the salary cap the gambling man would be putting money on the Goons I reckon.

I hope people don't try and draw a link between Michael Maguire's previous employers (salary cap cheats) and his current employers (salary cap cheats). That, in my opinion, would be outrageous, incorrect and bloody wrong.

Who is Scott Montgomery?

Poker player?

Just some random bloke that Stubblesteve knows probably.

It's you boys. To do with the HMRC. They mistook 'Wasps' for 'Wolfs' and sent the winding up order to the wrong club



I don't think anyone in SL is in trouble over the cap. The RFL and SL don't have any power to do anything meaningful or the guts. They have had the chance in the past when Wigan blatantly cheated to stay in SL and passed it up.

No I dont know him he left a comment on one of the Sky Sports site, just wondered which SL team he was refering to

Seeing as its a live cap and monitored by the RFL on a month by month basis its pretty much impossible to breach it undetected..... even for Wigan !

As for the RFL having the guts to punish Wigan for their cheating, you have to look at their options. Firstly they could have relegated them. But with the franchise system they would have gone straight back up the next season anyway so their wouldn't have been any point. Their other option of doing what the Aussies have done to Melbourne and stripping them of silverware... well they haven't won anything since the early 90's so thats a none starter as well.

The NRL operates a live cap.....

No it wouldn't. Melbourne would never have broken the live cap had their fraud not been discovered. It's easy to get round the cap auditors, very easy. Most SL chairmen will have directorships in major companies, with endless subsidiaries that simply won't be investigated by the cap auditors.

It would incredibly easy for a player to be paid an additional £100,000 a year if required and it's very hard to uncover it. You just have to hope that they won't do it for fear of the player or someone else ratting them out.

So does Super League doesnt it ?

I feel for Melbourne

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I wonder how this will afect Bellamy's standing in the game?

Can't see it TBH. As long as he doesn't crouch and has good posture e'll be fine.

Problem with what happened when Wigan got found out to be cheating was that the remainder of the Super League clubs didn't hold firm against them. For example St Helens even supported them in their case against the RFL.

A proper punishment, much deserved, I just wished it happened a few years before as the RFL might have routinely followed the NRL and done the same to Wigan, unlikely, though.

Matt King on GMR last night...

"We don't know what other players earn".

So how do posters on RLFans know?

Slight difference in the outcome & scale of Storm's misdemeanours as compared to Wigan's. NRL have historically been harsher on transgressions in the cap, probably due to the size of the sport over there & the fact that it is bigger than the clubs they are punishing. Like it or not had Wigan been deducted enough points to see them relegated the other year it would have been a massive own goal by SL/RFL to demote the biggest club in the country - would be akin to the Premiership demoting Manchester Utd for owing a few quid...

Cheating the word is, not owing a few quid.

No, Utd owing a few quid (takes tongue out of cheek). I dislike it as much as you do, but you can't escape that for Wigan to have been demoted for breach of cap would be like Utd being deducted points effectively relegating them... British sports administrations have no bottle when it comes to matters like that. Even in Storm's case they haven't been demoted despite the level of sanctions. The only country I can think of who have the bottle to demote teams for cheating would be Italy in the case of Juve - and that's just a whole other can of worms....

What rule (that was in place at that) time did Wigan break?

What do you think would have happened had the RFL tried to do what the ARL have done to Melbourne?