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The same could be said of King a couple of years ago and now look at him.

Spot on.

At the moment without Briers' creativity we are ed, and look one dimensional in attack.

Myler was poor last night and was against Bradford. I fully understand hes 19 and will get better and better, but as a scrum half he should be more creative and guide the side round the field. His kicking game is poor and some of the kicks he put in im sure he never told anyone what he was going to do. I dont for one minute think Myler is one of the reasons we lost the game, but at times in attack we just looked lost and completely unorganised and the same could be said about last week. I think he is lacking confidence and maybe is struggling to cope with his price tag and the pressure of playing at a bigger club. I think he is a great talent and will be one of the club great players in years to come, but last night he was poor!

SO are Eastmond and Tomkins and both are light years ahead and nor do they need to rely on someone else in order for them to perform.

Put me next to Lee Briers and im sure id do alright too

Of all the players in team, Briers injury has probably helped him the least. Getting Briers back training & playing, and getting some continuity will help him.'"

which club have Sam and Kyle been playing for the last few seasons and they are completely different types of player. Pepperami mans' kicking game is woeful so you've no room to talk.

He's 19 not 29 we are going to get the best of him over the next 5 to 7 years this nit picking like this really fccuking bugs me that lad has scored 5 tries in 6 games.

I know I'm butting in as a Saints fan but since you mentioned Kyle ...

Kyle began to shine as a no.7 when Leon began to play. Kyle is a young player who is very much learning his trade. He has a certain flash, a sidestep and a swerve which probably means he is noticed more readily than Myler. He is also pretty versatile. He scored all our points at the GF from the centre spot. He has covered fullback a few times now and is slowly picking up the role. But he is only in the early stages of his no.7 career and without his partner functioning well, he does not make the impact he makes when Leon is on form. But then the halfbacks are partners and so even when both are very experienced, if one is not functioning well, the other will suffer and overall play will not be as good.

you love that name droping dont you

Myler is what he is a 19 year old raw talent,who will get better.I am happy with what he has done in a Wire shirt so far,off cause they is room for improvment.He is only young,so some of his decision will be wrong some of the time.An when that wrong decision is made,its upto the coaching staff to put right.Myler is, for me one of the top prospect in world rugby. He will only get better.

I think I would want a bit more for a quarter of a million pounds.

If that amount was spent on international,seasoned pro.Yes,you would but on a 19 year old who has 12 years of rugby in him,then no is your answer.

then more fool on you he isn't a seasoned pro and no unproven player is worth that kind of money...should have spent it on developing youth rather than buying it.

We are developing it,plus we can afford to buy it ie Myler.

just because you can afford it doesn't make it right.

The key for Myler is who Warrington find to replace Briers.

grow up and smell the roses! of course it does, fool!

IMO i don't really rate him and never have. I never really got what all the fuss was all about.

In myler's defence tho, he is a ball playing scrumhalf and only 19. With eastmond and tomkins they are runners of the ball as well as ball player, so they stand out more as they make more breaks. It's hard for a 19yr old lad to control the game like myler is expected to do.

If myler is as good as smith thinks then i don't think you will see the best of him until he's 21 when he will be more mature. When briers returns will help myler a great deal but don't expect a 19yr old kid to run a a side in super league as it will not happen.

Eastmond is finding it easier as he has super pace off the mark and has good power, he stands out more.

Agreed. I watched him at Salford and always said his only real talent is in backing up a break - and yes he is very very good at that. I posted something similar on this site when he left for Wire and was told it was sour grapes.
If you have a top class play maker beside him they he will be the top try scorer, but of you are relying on him to make the play, they you will be disappointed.

Didn't set up that many tries last season then?

It's important that both Eastmond and Tomkins don't just sit back and rely on their pace and elusiveness to out fox the opposition, because as they age and injury's take there toll both will suffer in the speed stakes. It's therefore imperative that both continue to add strings to their bow, I see Tomkins play pretty much every week and you can see the change in him, yes he still attacks the line but his vision and selection of passes is becoming better and better, as is his kicking game.

Tomkins is slowly but surely not becoming the one trick pony that I feel Eastmond could. Granted I don't see the lad an awful lot, but from TV highlights and the games I do see other than Eastmond's remarkable pace and strength coupled with a good kicking game I just don't see the other facets that a great halfbacks needs, whether he'll develop them over time remains to be seen.

Like Tomkins, Eastmond is just learning his trade. He is behind Tomkins in opportunity because Tomkins played many more games than Eastmond last season. However, Eastmond is gradually learning to direct play as well as do all the other things he is so good at. While pace does decrease with age, he's got plenty more years in him to 'out fox' the opposition. I'm sure over the coming seasons he will develop his game accordingly, as will Tomkins.

for visible improvement in Eastmond's all round game, watch a tape of of the cup semi final -v- Hudds last year where he looked completely lost, then watch his game against Wire on Friday. His all round kicking game, vision and awareness, have improved dramatically, and he is now directing the team like a half back. If he carries on like that, in a couple of years he will be the best no7 in the world.

as for Myler, he looked a bit lost and confused on Friday - but it was probably the biggest game of his career (crowd, expectation in the team, no Briers to play with etc etc) and Saints definately targetted him early on. He will be a very good player for you lot - give him chance! Look at Sculthorpe when he first moved to Saints as a young lad and had the expectation of justifying the big transfer fee instantly. For 2 years he was pretty average, but look where he ended up.

Agree about Eastmond. Thought he played a very good controlled game, excellent kicking.

Myler will be absolutely fine. He needs a good 6 to play alongside him, it's a shame that Clarke is out as well as Briers, as he would help him out.

Answer that myself then.

He got 15 try assists last season more then Tomkins and Eastmond now I didn't watch Salford much last season but clearly he must have the talent to send players over the line.