With or without a new coach, bradford will finish above huddersfield next year. Why? Because they have a world class half back and huddersfield don't have any.

I think you miss Sally's point: given that there are only two trophies to win, Sally's 'bet' is as least as good as a bet that Giants won't finish in the top four.

maybe...but to say we wont win a trophy before a balls been kicked is a puzzler...considering we won one last year after the start we had....get the opinion sally does`nt want us to win owt.so he/she can av a moan...still cant see hudds in the top 4..just a feeling..

'Udders will be up there and abouts, tricky team to beat. Defence is top, they do need abit more spice in the attacking line though, McNally could provide this. In the CC final they come unstuck in attack against us and couldn't quite find the play to get them back into the game.

How can you say Hudds won't get in the top 4 before a ball has been kicked? Obviously a team on the up and finished 3rd last year on merit.

I hope we do win a trophy, and I reckon we will have a much better season, probably pushing top 5 this year, just got a feeling we won't win a trophy. If we slip up in the Challenge Cup I reckon we might not win Super League.

how can i say hudds wont get in the top 4....the same way as you say we wont win a trophy

I love the fact that we're unbeaten in the Challenge Cup since 2008, almost two years since our last defeat.

Awesome.

I think many of their ex-Wiganers are some of the most under-rated players in Super League - Hodgson, Robinson and particularly Wild. They could finish top 4 again, but might go the other way and drop down again. Hard one to call.

I think Elliot Hodgson is good prospect too...

Even with Gilmour I think letting to of Fulton is a bad for them!!! Horne is a good player too...

They didn't let go, he wanted to go back to the NRL, he came to help them out when Carney was knocked back by the visa applicating thing. They'd have kept Fulton, he was excellent.

Horne ? Awful.