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| Quote ="Les Boyd Is God"great!!!!!come sunday get chris hicks to banjo danny orr fracture his eye socket...see what the same said cowards do then'"
Can't he get that pompous sod Gaffa? I will never forget him giving the South Stand the hand job gesture a few years ago. |
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| Quote ="Natters"fair point i think.
aswell as Seniors excellent disciplinary record, there may have been some provocation from Wilkin that we weren't aware of. Senior did seem to take exception to something Wilkin had done or said - he was livid wasn't he.
and to be fair it was more of a slap than a punch, Wilkin went down like he had been shot by a sniper
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What about Seniors previous record for this very same (almost identicle) offence when he punched Barrie Jon-Mathers?
It may well have been a few years since he was last up before the commitee but you can't ignore his previous. |
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| Quote ="Natters"i disagree with the panels verdict, Cunninghams actions were deliberate - he does it all the time. The only difference on this occassion is that it caused serious damage to his opponent.'"
Did it. I'm pretty sure it was revealed he didn't actually break his eye socket.
Quote ="Les Boyd Is God"total bollox...what about cunninghams punch that put a wakey player out for a few weeks.nowt done claiming it was accidental that he hit him around the eye area...top teams get away with it more than the so called lesser teams..it stinks'"
Are you sure about that? Would that be the same James Stosic that played in the next Wakefield game against Castleford after the incident? The same James Stosic who, following the incident, has played in all but one of Wakefield's remaining games?
Cunningham's punch was ridiculous and frankly he should have recieved a 1-3 game ban IMO, but please get your facts straight first. |
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aswell as Seniors excellent disciplinary record, there may have been some provocation from Wilkin that we weren't aware of. Senior did seem to take exception to something Wilkin had done or said - he was livid wasn't he.
and to be fair it was more of a slap than a punch, Wilkin went down like he had been shot by a sniper
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This is what Wilkin said to Senior "Hey! those official players pants you sold me on Ebay have got skiddies on 'em, I want my £2.99 back" |
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| Quote ="Tezzerwolf"This is what Wilkin said to Senior "Hey! those official players pants you sold me on Ebay have got skiddies on 'em, I want my £2.99 back"'"
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For info St Conroy! It was a fractured eye socket read the article!'"
Here, enjoy my article. Actually from the Wakefield Wildcats.
www.wakefieldwildcats.co.uk/inju ... 05926.html
"James Stosic has not broken his eye socket as was first feared." |
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For info St Conroy! It was a fractured eye socket read the article!'"
Here, enjoy my article. Actually from the Wakefield Wildcats.
www.wakefieldwildcats.co.uk/inju ... 05926.html
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The outcome is not as relevant as the intent. If Stosic escaped serious injury then he was very fortunate. That he did does not excuse cunningham or lessen the offence.
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The outcome is not as relevant as the intent. If Stosic escaped serious injury then he was very fortunate. That he did does not excuse cunningham or lessen the offence.
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Yep "not broken" but...... "fractured!"
Either way does'nt change the fact Cunnigham is a fat dirty player!
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Yep "not broken" but...... "fractured!"
Either way does'nt change the fact Cunnigham is a fat dirty player!
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Cannot believe you are defending his actions.
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Cannot believe you are defending his actions.
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| Quote ="Warrington_Wolves_RLFC"Yep "not broken" but...... "fractured!"
Either way does'nt change the fact Cunnigham is a fat dirty player!'"
Do you not think they would say that? You were wrong Stosic was not seriously injured.
Quote ="Natters"The outcome is not as relevant as the intent. If Stosic escaped serious injury then he was very fortunate. That he did does not excuse cunningham or lessen the offence.'"
Look i totally agree. The decision is baffling and i'd be furious if it went against us. I'm absolutely not defending his actions at all.
I'm arguing with W_W_RLFC and yourself who has said he suffered a serious injury (which he didn't) and Les Boyd who said Stosic was forced to miss weeks (he wasn't)
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If you read my first post you would see i'm not.
His actions were wrong and he should have recieved a ban of 1-3 games IMO. |
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His actions were wrong and he should have recieved a ban of 1-3 games IMO.'"
What on earth are you prattling on about then. |
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| Quote ="Natters"What on earth are you prattling on about then.'"
You and WWRLFC saying Stosic suffered a serious injury, which he didn't and Les Boyd saying he missed a few weeks, which he didn't.
Cunningham was wrong and should have been banned, i agree, but you don't need to make things up. |
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| Quote ="ST_CONROY"You and WWRLFC saying Stosic suffered a serious injury, which he didn't and Les Boyd saying he missed a few weeks, which he didn't.
Cunningham was wrong and should have been banned, i agree, but you don't need to make things up.'"
is a fractured eye socket not serious enough for you?
Les Boyd will stand corrected if Stosic didn't miss any games following the incident.
I think that puts an end to the matter and we all agree that Cunningham was guilty of an offence and should have been banned rather than just getting his wrists slapped again. |
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| Quote ="ST_CONROY"You and WWRLFC saying Stosic suffered a serious injury, which he didn't and Les Boyd saying he missed a few weeks, which he didn't.
Cunningham was wrong and should have been banned, i agree, but you don't need to make things up.'"
My emails to the RFL were the day after the incident! When it was believed Stosic had broken his eye socket. As I said it was not a break it was a fracture as a guy I know at the Wildcats I have no reason to believe he was lying when he told me it was a fracture. His names Colin Sanctuary if you don't know who he is he is conditioning coach / physio! |
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Im impressed they took the time to respond in detail, good that.
Im almost certain Wilkin will have made a reference to what happened down under, cos Senior flipped.
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| Quote ="Warrington_Wolves_RLFC"My emails to the RFL were the day after the incident! When it was believed Stosic had broken his eye socket. As I said it was not a break it was a fracture as a guy I know at the Wildcats I have no reason to believe he was lying when he told me it was a fracture. His names Colin Sanctuary if you don't know who he is he is conditioning coach / physio!'"
You may be correct but then why wasn't that information given by the club in their article?
Forgive me for being cynical about it when they said it was broken while Cunningham was before the jury and Stosic was alledgedly out for weeks yet as soon as a decision was made it was downgraded to nothing/ potential fracture and he wouldn't miss any games.
Evidently it wasn't as serious as your suggesting if he could play the following week. |
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I never once suggested he was out for weeks.
I suggested that Cunningham was guilty of much higher category of offence than he received!
If it was a Wire player that done it you can bet your bottom dollar 4 game ban!
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| Quote ="Warrington_Wolves_RLFC"Yep "not broken" but...... "fractured!"
Either way does'nt change the fact Cunnigham is a fat dirty player!'" A Fracture is a break, and a break is a fracture, we've had this discussion before! arrghhh! |
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| Quote ="SLIMply the best"A Fracture is a break, and a break is a fracture, we've had this discussion before! arrghhh!'"
For this exercise a fracture is a fracture and break is a bone that is broken and the two/three/four pieces of bone etc are completely serparated! |
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Quote ="Warrington_Wolves_RLFC"They have the excuse about Seniors good conduct! Have a look at Cunnighams recent form:-
ON/614/09 Keiron Cunningham St Helens St Helens v Wigan 31/07/09
ON/559/09 Keiron Cunningham St Helens Harlequins v St Helens 25/07/09
ON/512/09 Kieron Cunningham St Helens St Helens v Wakefield 17/07/09
ON/378/09 Keiron Cunningham St Helens St Helens v Castleford 12/06/09
ON/367/09 Keiron Cunningham St Helens Hull FC v St Helens 05/06/09
ON/251/09 Keiron Cunningham St Helens St Helens v Bradford 24/04/09
ON/83/08 Kieron Cunningham St Helens Bradford v St Helens 22/02/08
This is his disciplinary record! If anyone wants to click into it and read each one heres the link www.therfl.co.uk/about/disciplin ... rch=search'"
Not nearly as bad as Ben Westwoods record.
ON/683/09 Ben Westwood Warrington Warrington v Wakefield 21/08/09
ON/522/09 Ben Westwood Warrington Huddersfield v Warrington 19/07/09
ON/536/09 Ben Westwood Warrington Huddersfield v Warrington 19/07/09
ON/469/09 Ben Westwood Warrington Celtic Crusaders v Warrington 04/07/09
ON/360/09 Ben Westwood Warrington Castleford v Warrington 06/06/09
ON/341/09 Ben Westwood Warrington Hull KR v Warrington 30/05/09
ON/214/09 Ben Westwood Warrington Warrington v Castleford 13/04/09
ON/38/09 Ben Westwood Warrington Warrington v Catalans 21/02/09
ON/20/09 Ben Westwood Warrington St Helens v Warrington 13/02/09
ON/622/08 Ben Westwood Warrington Castleford v Warrington 24/08/08
ON/587/08 Ben Westwood Warrington Warrington v Hull KR 17/08/08
ON/192/08 Ben Westwood Warrington Wakefield V Warrington 06/04/08
Interestingly, whilst reading comments from the panel in regards to the Catalan match earlier this year...
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The panel have no doubt that you are guilty of the charge being brought against you. It was a high swinging arm into the face of the opponent which made significant contact in the face of your opponent and knocked him unconscious. You jumped off the ground and the actions afterwards whilst the player was on the ground shows no remorse and a degree of malice. The panel feel that the grading is right and that this was an intentional blow to the head of an opponent. It caused injury to the player and shows that this was a significant blow. Your record shows that you have made an appearance here in each of the last three seasons.'"
So the RFL will grade their punishments according to how "sorry" you appear after you hit a player. What a ridiculous way to hand out punishments. |
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ON/614/09 Keiron Cunningham St Helens St Helens v Wigan 31/07/09
ON/559/09 Keiron Cunningham St Helens Harlequins v St Helens 25/07/09
ON/512/09 Kieron Cunningham St Helens St Helens v Wakefield 17/07/09
ON/378/09 Keiron Cunningham St Helens St Helens v Castleford 12/06/09
ON/367/09 Keiron Cunningham St Helens Hull FC v St Helens 05/06/09
ON/251/09 Keiron Cunningham St Helens St Helens v Bradford 24/04/09
ON/83/08 Kieron Cunningham St Helens Bradford v St Helens 22/02/08
This is his disciplinary record! If anyone wants to click into it and read each one heres the link www.therfl.co.uk/about/disciplin ... rch=search'"
Not nearly as bad as Ben Westwoods record.
ON/683/09 Ben Westwood Warrington Warrington v Wakefield 21/08/09
ON/522/09 Ben Westwood Warrington Huddersfield v Warrington 19/07/09
ON/536/09 Ben Westwood Warrington Huddersfield v Warrington 19/07/09
ON/469/09 Ben Westwood Warrington Celtic Crusaders v Warrington 04/07/09
ON/360/09 Ben Westwood Warrington Castleford v Warrington 06/06/09
ON/341/09 Ben Westwood Warrington Hull KR v Warrington 30/05/09
ON/214/09 Ben Westwood Warrington Warrington v Castleford 13/04/09
ON/38/09 Ben Westwood Warrington Warrington v Catalans 21/02/09
ON/20/09 Ben Westwood Warrington St Helens v Warrington 13/02/09
ON/622/08 Ben Westwood Warrington Castleford v Warrington 24/08/08
ON/587/08 Ben Westwood Warrington Warrington v Hull KR 17/08/08
ON/192/08 Ben Westwood Warrington Wakefield V Warrington 06/04/08
Interestingly, whilst reading comments from the panel in regards to the Catalan match earlier this year...
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The panel have no doubt that you are guilty of the charge being brought against you. It was a high swinging arm into the face of the opponent which made significant contact in the face of your opponent and knocked him unconscious. You jumped off the ground and the actions afterwards whilst the player was on the ground shows no remorse and a degree of malice. The panel feel that the grading is right and that this was an intentional blow to the head of an opponent. It caused injury to the player and shows that this was a significant blow. Your record shows that you have made an appearance here in each of the last three seasons.'"
So the RFL will grade their punishments according to how "sorry" you appear after you hit a player. What a ridiculous way to hand out punishments. | |
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| Quote ="Warrington_Wolves_RLFC"For this exercise a fracture is a fracture and break is a bone that is broken and the two/three/four pieces of bone etc are completely serparated!'"
sorry your wrong! a compound fracture, greenstick fracture are both breaks, a fracture of the zygomatic arch is a break to the bone arround the eye socket, what your trying to do is equate a break as being more severe than a fracture, it's not. a compound fracture of a bone is pretty severe!
both a break / fracture to an eye socket or surrounding area can be either a tiny chip of bone or a complete colapse of the entire socket with severe multiple fractures, resulting in a ruptured eye ball! they are both fractures/breaks just on oposite ends of the scale.
can we put this to bed now.
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| Quote ="Warrington_Wolves_RLFC"For this exercise a fracture is a fracture and break is a bone that is broken and the two/three/four pieces of bone etc are completely serparated!'"
More than two pieces of bone = comminuted.
Fractured bone breaking the skin = compound.
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| Quote ="SLIMply the best"sorry your wrong! a compound fracture, greenstick fracture are both breaks, a fracture of the zygomatic arch is a break to the bone arround the eye socket, what your trying to do is equate a break as being more severe than a fracture, it's not. a compound fracture of a bone is pretty severe!
both a break / fracture to an eye socket or surrounding area can be either a tiny chip of bone or a complete colapse of the entire socket with severe multiple fractures, resulting in a ruptured eye ball! they are both fractures/breaks just on oposite ends of the scale.
can we put this to bed now.
SLIM (REGISTERED NURSE)'"
[size=100Lol someone has google and is good a copy and paste
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