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| all players especially youngsters have areas to improve on. I wouldn't call them flaws....and Goulding is no exception he too has things to work on. I disagree with the taking on the line and pace issue that keeps getting mentioned, regarding the other HBs, you don't end up second top try scorer if you aren't taking on the line.The one player on the field that I think shows pace is Rhys Evans. There is no lack of pace on the field in any area. Even the props can show a turn of pace.
I think discussing the team as a whole and all the players potential is a good idea. All players including those in our first team have flaws, or rather areas to work on. If a player doesn't recognise that they can improve, than they are either very arrogant or stupid. or they will stand still in this great game of ours. Hulme is injured and Laithwaite is back with the 18's. But a few of our guys have played reserves this year and showed that they can hack it at that level too.
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| gogreen, you obviously know this team in a lot more detail than me, i think at one point you were accussed of being one of the lads dads! i don't know about that, i just call it as i see it from the stands. I will watch the Wigan game but i'm not going to Wakefield and hopefully they will progress both as a team and as individuals.
Most of my junior rugby was watching the likes of Lomax, Wheeler, Tomkins, Dixon and the Warrington lads from that age group. The current 18's are a couple of years younger i know, but if you set the standard at Lomax and Wheeler /Tomkins for HB then all i'm saying as a guy in the stands is that Goulding is the nearest i've seen to that lot. None of the others HB we have the pace to match the Saints/ Wigan lads.
As i said you know the current lads better than me and lets just leave it at wishing all the lads the best of luck in the future, to make it as far as they have is an achievement. Both me and you will always have our own opinions, lets hope we are both right as for Wire sake thats the best solution.
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| Yeah well anyone who compliments players on here is called a relative.....hence you were called BG senior....
I know the players only by following the academy season and reserve season with interest as well as the first team.....Have alot of friends who like going to watch the young players coming through too.
When you go the games regualary you get to know whats happening through talking to people and get to know how the team is going on and I take an interest in Squadbuilder as the future of the cllub and they do a great job....
THe details re players anyone can find on the programmes you pick up at the game, giving details of try scorers and results etc. Just great we all take an interest.
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| Quote ="Fletcher ender"its a pity Paul had to critise the young lad Goulding by name, they are only 16/17/18 and i was trying to be positive and giving credit to all the team especially one of them.
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Woah there. It was you that singled Goulding out by name and also you that said:
Quote the other HB we have are not bad but all lack in a specific area of either pace or taking the ball into the line'"
which to me is a ctiticism whilst my own view of:
Quote probably the least exciting prospect'"
is still actually praise of his ability.
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| Quote ="Fletcher ender"gogreen, you obviously know this team in a lot more detail than me, i think at one point you were accussed of being one of the lads dads! i don't know about that, i just call it as i see it from the stands. I will watch the Wigan game but i'm not going to Wakefield and hopefully they will progress both as a team and as individuals.
Most of my junior rugby was watching the likes of Lomax, Wheeler, Tomkins, Dixon and the Warrington lads from that age group. The current 18's are a couple of years younger i know, but if you set the standard at Lomax and Wheeler /Tomkins for HB then all i'm saying as a guy in the stands is that Goulding is the nearest i've seen to that lot. None of the others HB we have the pace to match the Saints/ Wigan lads.
As i said you know the current lads better than me and lets just leave it at wishing all the lads the best of luck in the future, to make it as far as they have is an achievement. Both me and you will always have our own opinions, lets hope we are both right as for Wire sake thats the best solution.'"
I, for one, am glad O'Brien doesn't look to run up and down the line, he is a throwback to the old fashioned scrum half who dictated play with his passing and kicking game, along with his movement.
Still needs a couple of years to physically mature, but he looks a really good prospect to me.
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"I, for one, am glad O'Brien doesn't look to run up and down the line, he is a throwback to the old fashioned scrum half who dictated play with his passing and kicking game, along with his movement.
Still needs a couple of years to physically mature, but he looks a really good prospect to me.'"
Completely agree. I want to see a scrum half of this ilk come through. A lot of the British 7's in SL at the moment are just nippy support players like Burrow and Robinson, not that I'm saying these are bad players they just don't dictate the game.
A proper ball playing halfback would be great to see. Briers isn't too bad in this respect, but when you look at the likes of Thurston and Prince who are great ball handlers he pales in comparison.
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| Find it hilareous that every time someone comments on goulding the " gogreen " comes on argueing.. Then straight away pushing obrians name forward.. stating his try count... player of the month etc..
The only one your fooling mate is yourself... cant anyone comment on how good goulding is ??? None can deny obrians a great player, but am sure what he does on the pitch will decide wether he makes it to superleague or not....
Not what his family write on here..
Oh, and by the way on the wolves website it says he won squadbuilder player of the month in may... not july
God knows who won it the last two months ? Maybe goulding ???
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| Quote ="dropgoal"Find it hilareous that every time someone comments on goulding the " gogreen " comes on argueing.. Then straight away pushing obrians name forward.. stating his try count... player of the month etc..
The only one your fooling mate is yourself... cant anyone comment on how good goulding is ??? None can deny obrians a great player, but am sure what he does on the pitch will decide wether he makes it to superleague or not....
Not what his family write on here..
Oh, and by the way on the wolves website it says he won squadbuilder player of the month in may... not july
God knows who won it the last two months ? Maybe goulding ???'"
I find it funny that if u recognise a good player l on here, someone thinks u must be related. It proved it when the gentlemen I was discussing the HB's with mentioned Goulding. suddenly he's BG senior. The debate was about halfbacks hence we discussing that. The player of the Month in June I heard was Josh Crowley the prop and well deserved from what I have seen. Don't know who won it last month you may well be right when you say Goulding as he too as I have said has played well so far this season.
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| Quote ="FireWire"Completely agree. I want to see a scrum half of this ilk come through. A lot of the British 7's in SL at the moment are just nippy support players like Burrow and Robinson, not that I'm saying these are bad players they just don't dictate the game.
A proper ball playing halfback would be great to see. Briers isn't too bad in this respect, but when you look at the likes of Thurston and Prince who are great ball handlers he pales in comparison.'" I'm not convinced that we will see many ball playing halves come through in the British game in the current state it is in.
Unless a player comes in making breaks and scoring tries, they generally don't last long. A good ball playing half should be going about his business quietly for much of the game, with the odd spark creating gaps for his backs, and directing his forwards around the park. Briers does this well IMO, but the likes of Burrow, Robinson etc are just not like this.
For me, a good 7 can be a quite boring player, but with the basics spot on, yet I'm not sure these kind of players are in the game, as too many people see it all about the big plays and the try scoring exploits of players.
When you watch the Aussie game, they have a fair few 7's who just do the basics, have a good kicking game and good defence, over here, ours can run. I think it takes a lot of patience to bring an old style 7 through, which the NRL clubs are prepared to do, but I'm not convinced SL clubs are.
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