Hope this clears thing up, taken from the Wigan board

This is theUK Sports drugs policy:

When called for a drugs test the athlete is entitled to have a representative (such as their coach or team doctor) present to verify that the testing occurred in accordance to guidelines. A sample is provided (in view of an official of the same gender) and split into two bottles and sealed by the athlete. A code number will be attached to the bottle and recorded on the relevant paperwork to ensure the correct result is given to the athlete whilst retaining their anonymity.

Following the sampling procedure the athlete must complete a medical declaration which states all medicines, drugs and substances taken over the last week. It is important that the athlete records everything, from over-the-counter medicines, to supplements and prescribed drugs. If any of these substances are on the prohibited list the athlete must hold a Therapeutic Use Exemption (TUE). The competitor, representative and official all check the form before the official and athlete sign it and both parties are given a copy.

The samples are then sent to a registered laboratory (if there is not one on site) where sample A is tested using gas chromatography (which uses separation techniques to divide the contents of the sample) and mass spectrometry (which provides the exact molecular specification of the compounds). If a positive result is found with sample A, the athlete is notified before sample B is also tested. The athlete or their representative is entitled to be present at the unsealing and testing of the second sample. If this too is positive, the relevant sporting organisations are notified whose responsibility it is to decide what penalties or bans are to be imposed'.

Note the bit in bold. Before the second sample is tested the athlete is notified so this is only opened and tested after the notification. The official press release says Wigan were notified on 22nd June.

My understanind is that the 2nd sample was opened and tested on 30th June, results to follow.

so did i, it's just the pies grasping at straws

they think the testers take sample B a week or so after they've informed the player he's had a poitive A sample.
thus giving him time to provide a negative sample for retest

This may seem like an odd question but doesnt it go off? And by that i wouldnt suggest its really ever fresh, neither have i ever tasted any.

Tobe fair, there have been very few people thinking that, and the general view on there for the last week or so has been that the B Sample was taken at the same time as the first. The confusion has been when that B Sample is tested. Was it tested on the 30th, or were the results due on the 30th? By the fact that there has been no communication, it would seem it is the former.

Just been 'catching up' my Rugby League Extra listening and on last weeks show (26th June) Craig Spence from the RFL said that the B sample would be tested on the 30th June with the results due a week later after which Hock will attend a hearing for sentencing.

I'm sure this is a difficult time for Hock & his family. Chin up Gareth.

it's frozen, samples can be kept for years once frozen. lance armstrong had b samples tested several years later in relation to the tour de france, or they wanted to test them for some thing they could not test for when the a sample was taken, some thing like that.. god my memory is shocking!

Not sure if he is aloud to to that, might have someone's eye out with his pointy end.

I would love to see you say that to his face

why, i'm sure he'd take it on the chin!

got a call off a mate in the know and gaz as been in lumber before think he might of changed his name when he was younger because he got sine high when he was about 15 or so which will come out soon i think

Hock has a face? Always thought it was a mask.

The Wigan fans have actually got it right because before sample 'b' is tested, they do have to inform the player, a week prior to them doing so. They already have the 'b' sample stored, but they still have to inform the player a week before they test it. Which is what they were actually stating.
They told him on the 22nd that sample 'b' would be tested on the 30th. This gives him and the club time to decide and arrange if they want to be present when its opened.

Still takes 1-2 weeks to test... It's not a golden envelope...

Omg, I didnt say it was just stating a fact.

A mate of mine went to school with him - this quote above is very true - but how he actually got away with it is hard to understand...

i wouldn't want to be there, think of the smell, i've still got a pregnancy test stick from my daughter, that stinks.

Didn't know he got sine die (sp) but do know he returned to Wigan for another chance at youth level and confirming that he was no longer going under the name Jimmy Hill.

Wigan have confirmed that his 'B' sample tested positive for Benzoylecgonine according to Sky Sports News

Its now official:- www.wiganwarriors.com/news_full.asp?newsid=4911

Its now official:- www.wiganwarriors.com/news_full.asp?newsid=4911

Why? What is he going to do? Batter him? I think Gareth Hock has enough on his place without getting into that nonesense. We're not at school you know.

As noted above, second B sample positive. Ryan Hudson has shown that it doesn't end a career but it will cost Hock 2 years and a 6 figure sum in lost wages (less whatever he does in the meantime). The very definition of stupid.

Silly man.

Is the irony not lost on aybody else, when we were told by all and sundry within the Borough of Wigan that some of our players were naughty boys?

Isn't irony pal, it's double standards at best

Are you implying they were aware of his recreational activities?