Eg; Saints away. We concede a try on Penny's wing, so Aristotle drags him off and we continue to ship in tries down that side. That is why Lowes won't make it as a head coach, he let's personal opinions get in the way of professional decisions.

Allied to the much maligned (justifiably) left edge, which has now been rectified, these idiots can't see what was in front of them, so Penny was an easy target.

You are a fool.

Did you not see the tries he scored against Leeds,Saints etc....?

No he's not, he's spot on. Whether he will make it in the future I don't know. But currently Penny is very very avarage.

penny has a future at warrington,his loan period gives him valuable game time.he will be back and his best playing days lie ahead of him.

Penny is a Viking na na na na



Would be good for Widnes and himself for him to stay another month, first team rugby and maybe appearing in the NRC final will boost his confidence.

He hasn't progressed otherwise he wouldn't have be loaned out.

How has he been doing anyway? Has he scored many try's?

And how have you gained this informed opinion?

3420 posts and counting, law of averages says at least 1 of those should be sensible...just proves the law of averages isn't all it's cracked up to be.
If you couldn't see that his attacking ability was immense, and that a lot of the defensive issues laid at his door had a lot to do with what was going on inside him, then I would suggest that you consider watching another sport.

He's been doing ok, scored a couple of tries, one a cracker against Gateshead when Webster kicked to the corner and he out paced their winger to score.

Still indecisive in a ttack at times, he had a great opportunity against Halifax at the weekend but hesitation stopped him scoring. I think it's best all round if he finishes the season in our league, especially with you having Hicks, Carney and Riley that can play wing.

When describing Penny that word should never be used, granted King had a few defencive frailty's but not half as many as Penny and the decision to drop Penny was spot-on. If it was the fault of Lowes then why hasn't Smith giving him a chance in the first team especially against teams like York and Featherstone

at the end of the day a coach that knows the game inside out has made him 4th choice winger and that cant be argued, i would probably put a reserve winger before him also.

I suspect that his confidence was shot from the abuse and ill founded criticism levelled at him. I didn't say he was the finished article but to dismiss him in the way you do is unjustified.

Would be good to see him go out on loan the rest of this season and possibly next season to a SL club, let someone like John Kear to coach him. We are spoilt for chioce at the moment but Hicks and Carney won't last forever and one injury to Mathers and Riley has to play fullback

It's about continuity, forming partnerships.

It's no good bunging him in for a game, then him missing five and so on. He's had one opportunity this year, and was arguably our best player on a largely disappointing day.

I'm a bit tired of defending him to be honest, folk just seem intent on running him down, I'm not quite sure what he's done wrong, other than look mega enthusiastic & appear to love playing for team & club. I just sincerely hope thate he comes back (as in 2010 ), bigger & better, and faster I guess.

Oh of course, I havn't seen every game he's ever played in so I'm notin a position to comment.

Whenever I have seen him I have never been impressed. Yes he is fast and scores some great tries but he is weak and gets constantly driven back in the tackle, his positional play is terrible, he looks weak under the high ball, his defence is poor. He just doesn't do it for me. Poor mans Paul White.

Undermined in one sentence.

Penny has scored tries that the likes of Gardner, Raynor, Smith, calderwood(all GB wingers) can only dream about. That is a fact. Yes he has a lot to learn, every young player has, but that does not excuse blaming him for every try scored in his corner. As far as i can recall, there were only 2 tries conceded that were genuinely his fault. HKR at home(the last one which won them the game!) and the one against saints in the cup straight after he had scored the try of the season. Catalans scored a good try on rileys wing on Saturday. It wasn't his fault, but if it had been Penny it would've been. Some people are complete idiots.

We should trust TS on this one. He thinks he needs to improve his game so the positives of his performance vastly outweigh the negatives and he becomes the best player we can have in that position. TS hopes he can do this at Widnes, and so do I.

Loan extended. https://www.warringtonwolves.org/news/Wolves38827.ink

Loan extended. https://www.warringtonwolves.org/news/Wolves38827.ink

Penny will be there for the final, his contract has been extended.

Sorry I forgot you are the font of all knowledge and chief know all of all things rugby related ,watch that bubble doesn't burst keep telling yourself you know everything and at least as long as you look in the mirror one person will agree with you

Calm down Padders, stop getting excited.

Annual Penny bashing, every month...WOOP WOOP!

surely that'd be monthly then??