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| Quote ="Wire On The Telly"Guess what treacle. It's not.'"
Oi, Colonel, you sure ?
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| Quote ="JWP"Oi, Colonel, you sure ?'"
Yes. I'd rather take the word of a RFL Referee development officer than a faceless button pusher*.
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| Quote ="Paul Youane"I thought it was Bradford returning the favour from Dean Gaskell a few seasons back.'"
I don't want to be reminded of that.
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| comedy gold
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| Stevo didn't seem to think there was anything wrong with him throwing the babe orward in his own ingoal area
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| Quote ="Wire On The Telly"Have wanted to do first aid course for while. Did my Ref one a while ago, so suppose it's an natural progression to my coaching badges.'"
After the rubbish you were saying about being allowed to pass forward in the in-goal area I suggest you enrol on a refresher course.
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| Quote ="Paul Youane"After the rubbish you were saying about being allowed to pass forward in the in-goal area I suggest you enrol on a refresher course.'"
No need to, i stand by my interpretation.
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| Quote ="Wire On The Telly"No need to, i stand by my interpretation.'"
I missed this - in what circumstances can you pass the ball forward?
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| Quote ="Ian [77"I missed this - in what circumstances can you pass the ball forward?'"
You can't.
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| Quote ="Paul Youane"You can't.'"
Forgive me Paul, but I think I'll wait for WOTT's interpretation of the laws of the game before forming a definitive view.
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| Quote ="Ian [77"Forgive me Paul, but I think I'll wait for WOTT's interpretation of the laws of the game before forming a definitive view.'"
I think authorative would be more apt.
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Hmm, WOTT doesn't explain his reasoning.
If WOTT is correct, and you can pass the ball forward in your own in goal area, then presumably someone can chuck it, NFL style, from the back of the ingoal area to the try line and have his colleague catch it and run off. I always thought that any sort of handing error by the defending team (forward pass, knock on) within the ingoal area resulted in a drop out.
Looks like I was wrong
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Hmm, WOTT doesn't explain his reasoning.
If WOTT is correct, and you can pass the ball forward in your own in goal area, then presumably someone can chuck it, NFL style, from the back of the ingoal area to the try line and have his colleague catch it and run off. I always thought that any sort of handing error by the defending team (forward pass, knock on) within the ingoal area resulted in a drop out.
Looks like I was wrong
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| Quote ="Ian [77"Hmm, WOTT doesn't explain his reasoning.
If WOTT is correct, and you can pass the ball forward in your own in goal area, then presumably someone can chuck it, NFL style, from the back of the ingoal area to the try line and have his colleague catch it and run off. I always thought that any sort of handing error by the defending team (forward pass, knock on) within the ingoal area resulted in a drop out.
Looks like I was wrong
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I did too, but then WOTT spoke, and I listened. Maybe in hindisght, my Nan was correct, I am a pawn shop.*
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| WOTT is getting mixed-up with the old can't be off-side within the in-goal area. This is true and is covered in section 14 of the rules by the inclusion of the specific wording "except when he is in his own in-goal".
Forward pass is covered in Section 10 where it says:
"A player will be penalised if he deliberately kocks-on or passes forward"
No exceptions are given.
WOTT would seem to be confused by the old "in-goal area" not part of the field of play rubbish. See Section 2: Field of Play of the rules that clearly indicates the "in-goal" areas as part of the field of play.
Anybody who doubts the above can consult.pdf
I know its the 2004 version but niether of these rules have changed in recent times.
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I think it is: as posted elsewhere:
Quote WOTT is getting mixed-up with the old can't be off-side within the in-goal area. This is true and is covered in section 14 of the rules by the inclusion of the specific wording "except when he is in his own in-goal".
Forward pass is covered in Section 10 where it says:
"A player will be penalised if he deliberately kocks-on or passes forward"
No exceptions are given.
WOTT would seem to be confused by the old "in-goal area" not part of the field of play rubbish. See Section 2: Field of Play of the rules that clearly indicates the "in-goal" areas as part of the field of play.
Anybody who doubts the above can consult: www.widnesrlreferees.btik.com/at ... book_2004_[1.pdf
I know its the 2004 version but niether of these rules have changed in recent times.'"
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I think it is: as posted elsewhere:
Quote WOTT is getting mixed-up with the old can't be off-side within the in-goal area. This is true and is covered in section 14 of the rules by the inclusion of the specific wording "except when he is in his own in-goal".
Forward pass is covered in Section 10 where it says:
"A player will be penalised if he deliberately kocks-on or passes forward"
No exceptions are given.
WOTT would seem to be confused by the old "in-goal area" not part of the field of play rubbish. See Section 2: Field of Play of the rules that clearly indicates the "in-goal" areas as part of the field of play.
Anybody who doubts the above can consult: www.widnesrlreferees.btik.com/at ... book_2004_[1.pdf
I know its the 2004 version but niether of these rules have changed in recent times.'"
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| I agree with Mr Youane. I have also examined my copy of the rules and can only find an exception to offside in your own in-goal - but NO exception to the forward pass. I believe the correct decision had a Bradford player caught Sheriffe's pass to be a Warrington penalty 10m in field opposite the point where the pass was made.
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| This is de-railing the Westerman thread, I'm going to move the discussion back to the Sheriffe one.
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| Quote ="Tony Catsmith"This deserves a thread of its own,
ricki sheriffe, a real "WTF????" moment, i've no idea what he was hoping to achieve by keeping the ball in but propelling it forward. Nothing good could have come of it.'"
I can only assume he started off thinking, I'll keep the ball in and then collect it myself, he perhaps didn't realise how unlikely this was going to be to achieve.
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| mmm, Im not home at the moment, i will have to have a look at t'book to see my understanding of it. If i am wrong, then yeah, apologies for my mistake. Was something i remember about on the day being spoke about but couldn't tell you at minute
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| i thought the rule is that you can pass it forward but only still within the in goal area
ie player on the deadball line passes to another player on the ingoal side of the try line but can't pass it forward beyond the try line.
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed_79"i thought the rule is that you can pass it forward but only still within the in goal area
ie player on the deadball line passes to another player on the ingoal side of the try line but can't pass it forward beyond the try line.'"
I thought Paul Cullen was the coach to bring success to Warrington.
Sometimes we all have to admit to ourselves we are wrong.
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| Quote ="Wire On The Telly"mmm, Im not home at the moment, i will have to have a look at t'book to see my understanding of it. If i am wrong, then yeah, apologies for my mistake. Was something i remember about on the day being spoke about but couldn't tell you at minute'"
Fair play to you WOTT - no need to apologise for making a mistake. Maybe worth apologising for being smug but not for making a mistake.
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed_79"i thought the rule is that you can pass it forward but only still within the in goal area
ie player on the deadball line passes to another player on the ingoal side of the try line but can't pass it forward beyond the try line.'"
Nope. No such rule in the rule book.
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| Quote ="Wire On The Telly"mmm, Im not home at the moment, i will have to have a look at t'book to see my understanding of it. If i am wrong, then yeah, apologies for my mistake. Was something i remember about on the day being spoke about but couldn't tell you at minute'"
Had a chance to look yet?
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