Am I?

Interesting but I disagreed with the fact that we are too pumped up. We are no where near the physical size and strength of the Aussies and the lack of size of Gleece, Monas and Hicks since they have been here is shocking.

Is apathy a common trait of yours, out of interest?

Looking at the players it would appear they spend too long pumping themselves up in the gym [iand nowhere near enough, running, passing, catching[/i and playing together to develop and understanding.?

I loved this bit.*

[size=59*hopefully it's not true - that we can't run, pass and catch[/size

Well if you don't know the answer to that scroll back this thread then maybe you might realise you are.

No not usually. I just like people to cut the bull. I can smell it a mile off. All this letter writing feeling sorry for yourself garbage doesn't wash with me. Just get on with it.

Yes because all the people in world who have read that article have posted on this thread.

Actually I bet that's not far from the truth!

Blasphemer! The Guardian is at the head of the largest selling local newspaper group in the country.

May I suggest that open letter writing to a provincial newspaper is analogous with copious, frequent and heavy posting on a similarily provincial web forum though?

Not really. In fact not at all. This is a discussion forum not some sort of preachy self important poseur who likes to write letters.

Also 6 posts a day can hardly be seen as heavy can it? I mean you have 4.

Well if so, that kind of makes the current situation rather worse. I'm not convinced they all do.

See where you are coming from and your argument has some merit but you could argue that the purpose of an open letter is to encourage discussion and debate especially when displayed on a website which allows for comments and feedback. I think it's pretty close to a forum post to be honest. As for PSIP's well they must be the next generation SIP.

Listen, we're getting away from the point. I thought it was boring. It was boring, that is that. There are boring posts on this forum. I am not trying to differentiate between either because in reality I couldn't care less.

After reading the letter it sounds like the author is coming to the end of his/her tether.

Will it make any difference or have any effect on the players...?

Not a chance.

It was an excellent letter. It was intelligent, reasoned and realistic. It was also constructive. Too much is said and written in open forums that have none of these qualities. You have to applaud the person mainly because it's a step in the right direction i.e away from moronic general slagging off

still wont make any difference david.

not many of these players have any loyalty or commitment to the club or its fans.

They are in it for the money and the money alone.

I'm with Lefty on this. Patronising populist tripe. When Melbourne Storm or Brisbane smash their opponents in the NRL its not because they are motivated by seeing some kid in the grandstand its because they are good players well coached.

Being motivated by the money is fine. Tony Smith's obviously going to have his own ideas of who he's going to bring in so only the ones who do the business for us will get new deals with us, and I can bet that any player who leaves us, is going to be on less money at his next club.

Yes but what happens when both opponents are equally good players and well coached? Motivation makes a difference.

The writer obviously took a lot of time and effort to write out his feelings. However he will end up being disappointed because the message won't get to the playing staff and coaching staff.

Desire and competitive pride.

Could well be the reason, but these players who aren't performing must have shown huge amounts of desire and competitive pride in order to become so highly regarded within the game and get to this level. They reached a level of of performance high enough to be able to secure these lucrative contracts. Why have they just suddenly stopped showing this desire when they have signed for warrington?

The only letter, and I mean the only letter, that I can see making any difference right now, must start with,

Dear Jim ....

let's hope so