Good post - I didn't see Boots, but you're spot on regarding 'we'll make a story out of this if you answer and if you don't'

As an outsider looking in, I took Cullens reply to be that his advice and recomendations were not put in place, maybe someone higher up wouldn't allow him to do what he wanted. What I would say to this tho in defence of the club, if this was the case Cullen should have set an ultimatum and walked not wait til the tide had turned against him and he was seen as the cause.

On the note that he should have walked after the HKR cup defeat, If I remember correctly he dropped Briers on the day of the game (if rumours are to be believed due to the night before) then this was cited as the reason for the loss, suppose a coach can't win...

And taking that a step further; should the players be aware that their coach is impotent regarding personel, they can do as they like without any fear of reprisal. It could create a team of highly paid prima donnas who turn up for the big games & can't be bothered against the also rans.

It would also explain why a team can win 8 on the trot, followed by loosing 8 on the trot when the training is effectively the same.

Come on you know nothing about Tony Smith yet you just instantly believe he will sort it. How "strong" was Tony Smith in his role as England Coach?

Paul Cullens answer on Boots'n'All was one of the smartest answers I've ever heard from a pundit.

Basically he told you everything you need to know without actually naming names.

So I will spell it out. You have a board who don't listen and don't action what the coaching staff require. I don't know but I suspect that some of your directors consider themselves RL men and have far to much of a say in who gets signed, let go, paid to much, paid to little and shown to much respect. Again I don't know but I can imagine some star struck hangers on are so impressed by certain players they become mates and thus factions are created. It's an old problem in our game and it's the reason why money doesn't always bring success.

Cullen may not be Wayne Bennett but he is a decent coach, however to me he has had the look of a man who knew he was being undermined from above and below for a while. If you think Smith will fair any better long term you may well be disappointed.

I agree with Geordie here, Cullen wanted certain players out, you can tell that by what the player said immediatly after Cull went and how Cull has reacted to that player on TV since.
Facts are the players still with us, Culls gone, Lowes is out and in Smiths first game we let in 60 points. Its early days but whats the common denominator here.... the player (and a few others of course).
Cull wanted them out because they did not show the commitment to the cause, one player inparticular has openly said he hates Warrington to live, the fans and the club, but he is still here playing week in week out and taking the money.

It seems to me that when Cullen openly wanted Matt Orford, did'nt get him and the board panic and get another no.7 that the new player reacted 1stly against Cull and now against the club.
There needs to be a big clear-out at Wire.... players not coaches!!!!!!!

That is a lot of guess work there sir. Well for some you know nothing about.

Jesus, you got all that from Cullen saying 'I have given all of the advice to the Warrington club I'm ever going to give'?

To be fair, you do acknowledge that you 'don't know' a few times. Although, again, to be fair, that was obvious from your post.

Getting England to win the RL world cup is like trying to get Ireland to win the football equivalent. It won't happen as the players aren't good enough. As for knowing nothing about Smith, he did a great job at Huddersfield which is why some of their fans are still bitter about him leaving. He turned Leeds into Champions and has won more grand finals than Daniel Anderson who everybody raved about.

At the moment I'm referring to Cullen's tenure as coach as "The Glory Years" !!!

They certainly are since Super League began.

Am I the only person in the world who doesnt know who the player/s is/are.
The way every reporter, ex-player, non related players, commentators, jokes like Offiah, Eddie constant pushing of Cull to spill all, people'in the know' on here go on, you'd think there was something deeply sinister going on at the club that everybody knows to be fact but are too afraid to say openly for fear of being whacked by a member of the Corleone family.

The continual secrecy does nobody any good at all as it puts all players and everyone at the club under suspicion, whether guilty or totally innocent parties. If I was there and innocent I would be incredibly racked off that the guilty were being shielded.

knock knock
Oh dear, I've just had a horses head delivered.

Nay lad Nay, I think you'll find thats Lowes Head.

Eddie Hemmings does this town no favours imo, we had his Briers for Britain campaign that was cringeworthy at times, his bias towards this town is plainly obvious to any neutral watching rugby league on sky.

His love for Paul Cullen holds no bounds, does anyone remember an episode of "I`m Alan Partridge" called "To kill a mocking bird" ?

It was the episode where Alan`s best fan Jed Maxwell had a room in his house that was a shrine to Alan Partridge with photos and posters that filled the walls as per below



It wouldn`t suprise me one bit if Eddie`s house had the Paul Cullen lounge.

well said pc. good point well made.

Maybe but it is probably pretty close to the mark.

It is a shame that Cullen is no longer involved with Warrington in some shape or form; I hope one day he can be welcomed back.

maybe tony smith will have a little chat with cullen?

Is anyone starting to think that it's the board of dithering idiots who run this club who should be ousted? I don't mean Simon Moran here but look at some of the other people who are on that board and ask yourself why are they there? They set the example for the whole club. Maybe if the bad run continues it shouldn't be the coaches head that people should be chanting for.

He wanted to but the board would not back him!

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I saw Eddie more as Partridge and Cullen as [size=150DAN[/size with the Lexus

This is the type of post that does this forum no favours....People speculating about things, inventing rumour, and attempting to make out there is some deep Mafia style plot going on behind the scenes at the club.

The simple truth about Cullen's comment is obvious.....He has certain opinions, about certain things which have gone on, and are still going on at our club, which he obviously feels do not need to be made public...Which is fair enough, except that Cullen feels the need to shove himself in front of the nearest camera at every given opportunity, which in turn gives Hemmings the chance to waffle on about his favourite subject in Rugby League - Warrington's never-ending underacheivement....



Personally, IF Cullen is bitter towards our club, then he has nobody but himself to blame....He had long enough in the job to straighten things out, and if his hands were tied by the board, then I presume that, having read many of his glowing references on here, Cullen had big enough balls to stand up to a gang of suits.

Or earn a living as it is alternatively known.

Cullen can't win. If he criticises us then it must be sour grapes, if he keeps his mouth shut and won't offer an opinion it's not good TV etc etc. What's he supposed to do? I think he knows as well as anyone what's going on in that club, but wasn't given the power to deal with it.

How many livings does he want?.....Coach?, TV analyst?....Jack of all trades, master of none, springs to mind!!...

Ithink we should all move on from paul cullen,
every week a thread appears about what cull said on boots n all,
does anyone really give a monkies what cull says anymore!!!!!