Hear hear, we are all entitled to our views and in making them we have to expect the brickbats and the plaudits. It's just a forum afterall.

I mean I've called Monkeyman, quite correctly in my view, a champagne socialist, gaullist, oedipalist, bed wetting, fornicator before now but he takes it all in good heart.

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had to laugh

I'm still waiting for a valid and reasoned response as to what you think Widnes and Leigh can offer SL over Celtic and Catalan.

I've seen Leigh play and believe me they offer [inothing[/i at all above what Celtic offer and a damn sight less than what Catalan offer.

Im sorry Geordie but that response is exactly what ive come to expect from people on here.

Just for the record (again) Greg Spruce read my comments on here a week ago. He knew exactly what my issues were so there was no reason for any further communication. Has he bothered his backside to address the issues raised - has he buggery.

Stop waxing lyrical about Greg and the club and get real. Developmental feedback is what its all about.

And if you could be bothered emailing him he would have replied. What do you expect him to do, read all of your e posts on the off chance you asked him a question worth answering?

He's got a job to do. An important one at that. If he spent all his time answer your banal queries on here I'd personally petition for him to get sacked. Thankfully he doesn't get drawn into your crap and gets on with his job.

In the time it's taken you to write this thread, and write one of your many rants, you could have written the email and sent it to Greg, where there's a high chance your problems will be resolved, whereas on here, you're just causing needless fuss.

Ok, lets look at it the other way, you are the only person complaining so why should anything be changed because you say so.

Those who are unhappy always shout louder than those that are happy.

So you think its acceptable that the 'official' club website gives no coverage to the reserves or junior teams?

They dont even have a list of the reserve fixtures ffs.

All they use the website for is to try and generate turnover.

My personal opinion on this is that club officials should not post on here in their capacity as a club official. I have raised this before and got shot down, but I believe it leaves them open to criticism in events like this.

By being aware that club officials read this forum (and respond to some posts), some fans will feel that this is a valid way of getting their point across to the club.

As long as club officials post here, then I think some fans are justified in airing their issues with the club on here, whether we would prefer them to go directly to the club or not.

I originally aired my views on this, when a point about a player was clarified, yet many other rumours/posts were ignored. This could lead people to believe that there is some truth in threads if the club don't respond.

Maybe there should be no more than press releases from the club, and this forum should remain a fans forum, with issues directed to the club.

Just my opinion, and I appreciate that Greg is in a difficult position, as he tries to clarify some things for us, but I feel he may end up stitching himself/the club up.

Good point well made Dave.

Although I think all that would happen is that the club officials would come on here under a false name....ooh hang on a minute.

I think you'd have a point if the club was doing something important, like running the country for example.

At the end of the day, it's just a rugby club - which all of us are supposed to support and love "til I die" etc. Alot of posters need to just chill out and stop taking everything so seriously.

As for the original complaint about lack of Reserves/Academy info on the website - I actually agree 100%, although not at all with the manner that Panties is going about it. It's an issue I have raised privately with club officials several times and will continue to do so. Ranting about it on here is not the way to address it.

Sorry but that just proves that the club and its officials dont listen.

As ive said a million times, Greg Spruce read and understood my 'rant' but has obviously chosen to ignore it.
I cant see why I had to email him. He must be short of something to do if he wants to read the same thing over and over again.

How long does it take to post a list of ressie fixtures on the website? So far he has had over a week.

This is rlfans.com, you know a place for fans to discuss RL. It is not part of Warrington Wolves RLFC. If you have an issue with them that you would really like resolving, please, please get in touch with them. You are achieving nothing by ranting about it on here.

If only...

Seb are you for real or what?

People discuss all things Warrington Wolves RLFC on here.

Are you now saying that everyone who has issues with Jimmy Lowes, The Board, The Team, The Club should contact the club directly instead of posting it on here?

What a strange man you are.

71; is this irony?

Have you not heeded the warning.

Hope you enjoy your ban.

For real. Whearas you appear to fall neatly into the "or what" category.



Quite right. No-one is saying otherwise.



Yes and no. You see, in the real world - not some fantasy world you seem to live in - things aren't always black and white, there are grey areas. So, mostly the answer is No, of course not, most issues should be discussed on here. Such as what is wrong with the left edge defence. But sometimes, it's best to contact the club - especially when a club employee has suggested that very route. By all means, discuss the website on here and let everyone know what comes of your contact with the club.

But doing nothing other than ranting on and on about something isn't a) acheiving anything or b) interesting.



Funny isn't it, that whenever anyone disagrees with you you moan about free speech, yet when I and others post our opinions you come back with comments like that.

Test - Is the resultant outcome the direct opposite of that intended with comic effect? Answer - Nope.

Ed Byrn summed it up nicely when he was ribbing the "Isnt it ironic" song referring to a traffic jam which a town council planner was stuck in which caused the town planner to miss the meeting which was to discuss the easement of traffic congestion.

Didn't Byrn also say that the '10,000 spoons when all you need is a knife' thing ISN'T ironic but that if you took hours to find a knife only to discover that a spoon would have done in the 1st place it would be?

Seb, with respect again, we have already spoken privately about certain issues with regards to the manner in which you post.

You decided not to reply/comment on my feedback, which I presume means that you will continue to post in the same manner.

Im not going to get 'involved' with you as I know you are just wanting to provoke a reaction.

As promised I will post within the rules and AUP.

I see nothing has changed here then.

Why, where've you bin ? Off Partying like it's 1999 ?

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The club is important to many thousands of people (I'm sure it's very important to use here, otherwise why on earth would we all spend so much time discussing them here) so I don't think that's a very good argument.

And this is sort of my point. By a club official responding to certain issues here, why wouldn't people continue to raise issues here, knowing that they are probably getting read by the club? The OP (I can't keep up with his name changes) has it in his head that Greg knows his issues, so why does he need to raise it with the club, and actually, he has a good point with that one.

This is a multi-million pound business, and the club should always be very careful about how they are perceived by it's customers/fans.

At times we all come on here to have a moan about things like the shop, website, ticketing, prices etc. and I do agree that if people feel so strongly about things, they should raise them directly with the club. I have done so in the past when I have had absolutely useless service from them.