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| Quote ="lister"It's like Mock The Week, what does MYL stand for.'" the guy who owns the security company is named mick lyons dont know what the y stands for
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| Quote ="InSmithWeTrust"Indeed, I've been mightily impressed by the crowds in the 3 games so far. An average of nearly 12,000 apparently, with 2 of the 3 games against supposedly "light" travelling support'"
I think the £5/£10 tickets for the West Stand have got something to do with that.
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| Quote ="mark_m"I think the £5/£10 tickets for the West Stand have got something to do with that.'"
Personally, I don't care how they get them in, aslong as they come in.
As for the original topic, apparently the South stand wasn't full, but because people refused to stand in the gaps and congregated at the edges of each block, the club were forced to move people into the West stand. Which answers my earlier question as to why they were allowed into the South stand if it was full
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| There was loads of room in the South stand yesterday, as someone said before, it just seems most people congregate towards the yellow lines, so moving up the walkways made it look very busy. I had plenty of room, and plenty room round me.
Why oh why oh why though, do the stewards insist on moving you away from the yellow lines at an hour before kick off, and do bugger all once the game has kicked off !!
Sorry - a joke !
What is also a joke, is little Hitkers picking on a 15 year old lad who had the gall to have a drink 'from a can of coke' !!
What a heinous and dastardly act that was, mind you it did take 4 stewards to 'sort the offender out'.
Quite why they didn't bother with the other lads who had the litre bottles of pop on them I don't know....
And for the record I refuse to pay the exorbitant prices they charge at the kiosks, so that is why I let my SON take a can in with him.......not like he's the only person taking grub/drink from outside of the stadium is he...
Big brave stewards when it comes to a 15 year old lad........yeah right
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| i was in a good spot (away from the yellow lines) and asked to move into a space to create..... 'more room' ??
then was insulted by mr army coat
And thank you to the said guy in the army coat stood behind me calling my lets say mosher coat, all the game thinking i was totally oblivious, yes i am the pied piper of hamlyn, yes my hair does look like the back end of a sheep tied up in my hat and yes that's the reason I'm not stood with the crusaders fans because i don't want a "Gareth Thomasing" t0$$3r
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| Quote ="Southstander05"There was loads of room in the South stand yesterday, as someone said before, it just seems most people congregate towards the yellow lines, so moving up the walkways made it look very busy. I had plenty of room, and plenty room round me.
Why oh why oh why though, do the stewards insist on moving you away from the yellow lines at an hour before kick off, and do bugger all once the game has kicked off !!
Sorry - a joke !
What is also a joke, is little Hitkers picking on a 15 year old lad who had the gall to have a drink 'from a can of coke' !!
What a heinous and dastardly act that was, mind you it did take 4 stewards to 'sort the offender out'.
Quite why they didn't bother with the other lads who had the litre bottles of pop on them I don't know....
And for the record I refuse to pay the exorbitant prices they charge at the kiosks, so that is why I let my SON take a can in with him.......not like he's the only person taking grub/drink from outside of the stadium is he...
Big brave stewards when it comes to a 15 year old lad........yeah right'"
I wonder if they were the same stewards who thought it would be easy to kick the young united fans out at the Liverpool reserve game a couple of years back. They certainly got a shock that night.
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| Could it be that people stand at the edges close to the yellow lines in order to have easy access to their beloved beer? We're in the North Stand and we're fed up of continually getting up down up down up down so the ale cans can service their alcohol habit. Having consumed copious amounts we then start again...up down up down up down to let them out to have a pee. If I can do without a fag for an hour and a half surely the alkies can manage without ale. Perhaps the answer would be to close the bars when the game is on and ban beer from the terraces in the way football does it.
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| Quote ="safeway.1"Could it be that people stand at the edges close to the yellow lines in order to have easy access to their beloved beer? We're in the North Stand and we're fed up of continually getting up down up down up down so the ale cans can service their alcohol habit. Having consumed copious amounts we then start again...up down up down up down to let them out to have a pee. If I can do without a fag for an hour and a half surely the alkies can manage without ale. Perhaps the answer would be to close the bars when the game is on and ban beer from the terraces in the way football does it.'"
It happens in football because of the large hooligan element.
In the South stand, if everyone was spread out evenly, it wouldn't take that much effort to get to the bar. The only place you find any problems now is when you get to the edges. It's common sense all round really, but people want to make it easier for themselves and to hell with everyone else.
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| I think closing the bars during play is not a bad idea. Banning alcohol from pitchside I see no reason for.
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| Quote ="The All New Chester Wire"I think closing the bars during play is not a bad idea. Banning alcohol from pitchside I see no reason for.'"
Would the large queues not run into a problem after 15 minutes when the bars shut for the second half with a hundred or so people having not being served? More staff and tills maybe?
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| Quote ="The All New Chester Wire"I think closing the bars during play is not a bad idea. Banning alcohol from pitchside I see no reason for.'"
You must be on a wind up. First fags are banned, swearing frowned upon, now beer. Going to the match will soon be like a day out with the Mormons.
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| Quote ="InSmithWeTrust"In the South stand, if everyone was spread out evenly, it wouldn't take that much effort to get to the bar. The only place you find any problems now is when you get to the edges.'"
Incorrect.
We stand in the middle under the gantry and it's just as bad there.
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| Quote ="Mass Effect"Incorrect.
We stand in the middle under the gantry and it's just as bad there.'"
What I mean is the edges of each block. Getting through the middle of each block is easy, plenty of room, but when you get closet to the yellow lines, it's much tougher to find a gap to get through.
That's the case where I stand near the drums anyway
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| Quote ="InSmithWeTrust"Would the large queues not run into a problem after 15 minutes when the bars shut for the second half with a hundred or so people having not being served? [uMore staff and tills maybe[/u?'"
Bingo. I often think of that and don't understand the problem.
Let's say the bars are open for 2 hours and minimum wage for under 18-21's is £4.83. Let's say gross margin on a £3.00 pint is 40%. Selling just 8 more pints in two hours would cover the cost of an additional member of staff for the period.
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| Quote ="InSmithWeTrust"What I mean is the edges of each block. Getting through the middle of each block is easy, plenty of room, but when you get closet to the yellow lines, it's much tougher to find a gap to get through.
That's the case where I stand near the drums anyway'"
Understood.
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| Quote ="Wires71"Bingo. I often think of that and don't understand the problem.
Let's say the bars are open for 2 hours and minimum wage for under 18-21's is £4.83. Let's say gross margin on a £3.00 pint is 40%. Selling just 8 more pints in two hours would cover the cost of an additional member of staff for the period.'"
I've always wondered if Heathcoates work like a recruitment agency with their staff. In other words, the member of staff gets £4.83, but the club have to pay more than that per person. The club don't employ the staff as far as I'm aware.
But otherwise, you're right. One more till on each bar would do the trick, as the main bottleneck seems to be the staff behind the bat who pour the drinks in to plastic cups. As I was buying a pint on Sunday, the person who served me poured a new one, when there was a good 15 single pinters already prepared behind him
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| Quote ="InSmithWeTrust"I've always wondered if Heathcoates work like a recruitment agency with their staff. In other words, the member of staff gets £4.83, but the club have to pay more than that per person. The club don't employ the staff as far as I'm aware.
But otherwise, you're right. One more till on each bar would do the trick, as the main bottleneck seems to be the staff behind the bat who pour the drinks in to plastic cups. As I was buying a pint on Sunday, the person who served me poured a new one, when there was a good 15 single pinters already prepared behind him'"
I understood it was like a concessionary outlet where Heathcotes pay WWRLFC 'rent' for the pitch then a share of profits. I just wonder how much revenue is lost due to excessive queues and people "giving up" like I do. It's not just a problem at Warrington either.
I'm not sure the bottle neck is the staff waiting to use the till, but more the amount of people who can be served simultaneously.
Just in case I get the "why do you want to drink at the gound anyway" I don't advocate getting vexed at the game personally, but I do like a pint in the first and second halves.
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| I queued for 10 mins only to be asked for ID once, i was 29 at the time? ? Had none on me either
a sausage roll just isn't the same
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| Quote ="safeway.1"Could it be that people stand at the edges close to the yellow lines in order to have easy access to their beloved beer? We're in the North Stand and we're fed up of continually getting up down up down up down so the ale cans can service their alcohol habit. Having consumed copious amounts we then start again...up down up down up down to let them out to have a pee. If I can do without a fag for an hour and a half surely the alkies can manage without ale. Perhaps the answer would be to close the bars when the game is on and ban beer from the terraces in the way football does it.'" although i used to drink i was in the east stand on the end and had the same trouble but it was kids goin the loo and for sweets etc just part of life i moved to the middle of the row and told the said kids to go the other way as they were nearer that exit sorted the problem
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed"I queued for 10 mins only to be asked for ID once, i was 29 at the time? ? Had none on me either
a sausage roll just isn't the same'"
Getting asked for ID in the ground?! Rather than rocking horse poop!
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| Quote ="Wire In The Final"Getting asked for ID in the ground?! Rather than rocking horse poop!'"
tell me about it, i was taken aback and why would i carry I'd ?
Granted i have a baby face but I'm 6ft 1 and broader than a bus ?
I didn't get one of the jobsworth kids and got a manager or supervisor of some sort i reckon
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| Quote ="lister"It's like Mock The Week, what does MYL stand for.'"
"me yello lines, Why i iz abel to stand 'ere"
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| we should have built an all seater stadium and we wouldn't have any of these issues.......
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| Quote ="Teddington Wire"we should have built an all seater stadium and we wouldn't have any of these issues.......'"
boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh
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| making the southstand in 3 seperate pens would be an idea. A,B and C. Just put doors in the concourse. Then the club can sell Tickets accordingly as to how many ift in each section. Also stops people from swapping ends.(although Mr Moran could still do this).
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