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| Quote ="Coventry Warrior!"If you took all three players out of their respective teams, which team do you think would struggle the most?
I would say Huddersfield and thats why Hodgson deserves it IMO. Morley and Graham have had great seasons. Graham won it last year so maybe that was against him.
If Wire had finished in the top 8 and made a good go of the playoffs then I'm sure Morley would of been Man of Steel.'"
Hodgson missed 4 league games this season; Wakey away, Hull KR home, Celtic away and Saints away.
Wakefield 6 Huddersfield 54
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| Coventry Warrior! wrote: If you took all three players out of their respective teams, which team do you think would struggle the most?
I would say Huddersfield and thats why Hodgson deserves it IMO. Morley and Graham have had great seasons. Graham won it last year so maybe that was against him.
If Wire had finished in the top 8 and made a good go of the playoffs then I'm sure Morley would of been Man of Steel.
if you listened to the pundits they said huds field missed the influence of brown at wembley and the last games so should he have been short listed
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| Quote ="SPIRIT OF 74"Yes we did win 1 of the 2 major trophies but people on here think it means we are up with the likes of Leeds and Saints and we are nowhere near it our form in SL was nothing short of dire and if people were honest they would have been calling for Smiths head if we had lost in the cc final(which was a great achievement in winning it), but now is the time to be realistic and asses our SL campaign which was totally unacceptable imo champions are the team that win the league and grand final together all we have done is win 5 games in a row of which 2 were against lower division teams so it was like winning 3 SL games and getting a trophy,yes I am over the moon we won it yes i am extremely proud we won it , No I wont carry on blowing smoke up our own ass about it after next saturday it will be what happened last season and it is time to improve from now on in Super League and turn into the best TEAM in SL anything else will be failure in my eyes.
Lets not forget how many on here called the Challenge cup the mickey
mouse cup not too long ago'"
You cant go saying things like that on here, you may upset the ostriches! Of all teams in superleague, I can see at least 3 teams improving more than Warrington. at the moment, i have us ranked in 7th place for next season.
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| The thing I'm most gutted about is that they show a selection of clips of the Man of Steel winner at half-time in the Grand Final, and it would have been great to see Moz's hits on Fielden and Crabtree, and him lifting the cup, of course.
Disappointed for Moz, but Hodgson did have a great season too, so fair play to him.
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| Quote ="Coventry Warrior!"
If you took all three players out of their respective teams, which team do you think would struggle the most?
I would say Huddersfield and thats why Hodgson deserves it IMO. Morley and Graham have had great seasons. Graham won it last year so maybe that was against him.
If Wire had finished in the top 8 and made a good go of the playoffs then I'm sure Morley would of been Man of Steel.'"
Hodgson missed four games and Huddersfield won three lost one. Graham missed three games in which Saints won 2 and lost 1. Morley also missed four games and we lost all four!
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| Quote ="SPIRIT OF 74"Yes we did win 1 of the 2 major trophies but people on here think it means we are up with the likes of Leeds and Saints and we are nowhere near it our form in SL was nothing short of dire and if people were honest they would have been calling for Smiths head if we had lost in the cc final(which was a great achievement in winning it), but now is the time to be realistic and asses our SL campaign which was totally unacceptable imo champions are the team that win the league and grand final together all we have done is win 5 games in a row of which 2 were against lower division teams so it was like winning 3 SL games and getting a trophy,yes I am over the moon we won it yes i am extremely proud we won it , No I wont carry on blowing smoke up our own ass about it after next saturday it will be what happened last season and it is time to improve from now on in Super League and turn into the best TEAM in SL anything else will be failure in my eyes.
Lets not forget how many on here called the Challenge cup the mickey mouse cup not too long ago'"
Which is just what Leeds or Saints will do on Saturday...........Leeds having got to the Grand Final by beating the teams that finished 4th in the league and 8th in the league both with home advantage...........Regardless of how well they've done through the season that's the task that is set before them at the start of the play offs!!
Warringtons task in lifting the CC was first to beat 2 lesser teams and then to beat the teams that finished 4th 6th and 3rd in the Super League all away from home!
As you say after next Saturday it is time to look forward to next season. This seasons major trophy winners will be Warrington and either Leeds or Saints.............a few teams will get a well done pat on the back for finishing in the top 8............and by the start of next season most people won't be able to remember who finished in the top 8
As for being up their with Saints and Leeds well come Sunday we'll have won more trophies this year than one of them and the same number as the other!
You have your opinions and expectations others have their own.
Me.......I'm looking forward to next season under TS...............and I'm just off to blow some more smoke up me own ass!!
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| Quote ="Thelonius"Hodgson missed four games and Huddersfield won all four. Graham missed three games in which Saints won 2 and lost 1. Morley also missed four games and we lost all four!'"
Mind you we did lose 15 games this season, so the chances were that would happen
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| Love your summing up there Al, I too am looking forward to a new season under TS bring on 2010.
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| Quote ="Wires71"
Mind you we did lose 15 games this season, so the chances were that would happen
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Lies, damn lies and statistics
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| dont know what all the fuss is about...would morley give up his winners medal for m.o.s??no..would hodgson swap his m.o.s for a winners medal??yes..both players have had a terriffic season....stroll on next season
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| Quote ="Les Boyd Is God"dont know what all the fuss is about...would morley give up his winners medal for m.o.s??no..would hodgson swap his m.o.s for a winners medal??yes..both players have had a terriffic season....stroll on next season'"
Stroll on next season, pal?
More like leg it next season.
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| Quote ="SPIRIT OF 74"Yes we did win 1 of the 2 major trophies but people on here think it means we are up with the likes of Leeds and Saints and we are nowhere near it our form in SL was nothing short of dire and if people were honest they would have been calling for Smiths head if we had lost in the cc final(which was a great achievement in winning it), but now is the time to be realistic and asses our SL campaign which was totally unacceptable imo champions are the team that win the league and grand final together all we have done is win 5 games in a row of which 2 were against lower division teams so it was like winning 3 SL games and getting a trophy,yes I am over the moon we won it yes i am extremely proud we won it , No I wont carry on blowing smoke up our own ass about it after next saturday it will be what happened last season and it is time to improve from now on in Super League and turn into the best TEAM in SL anything else will be failure in my eyes.
Lets not forget how many on here called the Challenge cup the mickey mouse cup not too long ago'"
Knee jerk morons may have called for his head, although evedn the thickest of thick I would give the benfit of the doubt to. Those of a more reasoned would have guffawed at the suggestion.
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| Quote ="Live Wired"You cant go saying things like that on here, you may upset the ostriches! Of all teams in superleague, I can see at least 3 teams improving more than Warrington. at the moment, i have us ranked in 7th place for next season.'"
i'd say you're the ostrich on here.
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| Quote ="Live Wired"You cant go saying things like that on here, you may upset the ostriches! Of all teams in superleague, I can see at least 3 teams improving more than Warrington. at the moment, i have us ranked in 7th place for next season.'"
That means we will have improved by 3 places in the league.
Which 3 teams do you see as improving at leat 4 places in the league next season and on what basis??
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| Well done Brett Hodgson, best player by far.
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| Quote ="Live Wired"You cant go saying things like that on here, you may upset the ostriches! Of all teams in superleague, I can see at least 3 teams improving more than Warrington. at the moment, i have us ranked in 7th place for next season.'"
Who do you have ranked above us? Please provide details i.e players, coaches etc. I'm sure you have a detailed and well thought out response.
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| Quote ="Mark"Who do you have ranked above us? Please provide details i.e players, coaches etc. I'm sure you have a detailed and well thought out response.'"
Whilst not supporting the above comments, I believe Hull FC will improve on their league performance next year, for one.
I am going for a Wire 4th/5th in 2010.
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| Quote ="Wires71"Whilst not supporting the above comments, I believe Hull FC will improve on their league performance next year, for one.
I am going for a Wire 4th/5th in 2010.'"
Definitely, they will be dangerous come playoff team due to the big game players they'll have. All comes down to injury situation ith Hull, Long misses alot of games.
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| Quote ="Mark"Well done Brett Hodgson, best player by far.'"
just a simple Question have you watched every game this season if not on what basis did you arrive at that conclusion (apart from his peers picking him). but in the players judgement (apart from sean Long) I Trust. well done brett on your award CLAP:CLAPCLAP:eusa_clap.gif
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| Quote ="Thelonius"Hodgson missed four games and Huddersfield won three lost one. Graham missed three games in which Saints won 2 and lost 1. Morley also missed four games and we lost all four!'"
I realise that but over the course of the season, I feel Warrington and Saints would have coped a lot better.
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| Quote ="SPIRIT OF 74"You could look at it in another way in why should a player who couldn't qualify for the play-offs be in with a chance, you can only paper over the cracks with the challenge cup for so long ,we were gash in the league all season bar a small part when smith took over we started bad and finished the same way we started.
Morley would have won it if we had finished in the top 3,his team mates let him down imo he was consistent all season just that everyone else under performed for the majority of the season !'" in answer to your question it's man of steel not man who finished in the playoffs
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| Quote ="Wires71"Whilst not supporting the above comments, I believe Hull FC will improve on their league performance next year, for one.
I am going for a Wire 4th/5th in 2010.'"
For Agar, see James Lowes.
They'll struggle again unless they start terribly and replace him like we did this year.
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| Quote ="SPIRIT OF 74"Yes we did win 1 of the 2 major trophies but people on here think it means we are up with the likes of Leeds and Saints and we are nowhere near it our form in SL was nothing short of dire and if people were honest they would have been calling for Smiths head if we had lost in the cc final(which was a great achievement in winning it), but now is the time to be realistic and asses our SL campaign which was totally unacceptable imo champions are the team that win the league and grand final together all we have done is win 5 games in a row of which 2 were against lower division teams so it was like winning 3 SL games and getting a trophy,yes I am over the moon we won it yes i am extremely proud we won it , No I wont carry on blowing smoke up our own ass about it after next saturday it will be what happened last season and it is time to improve from now on in Super League and turn into the best TEAM in SL anything else will be failure in my eyes.
Lets not forget how many on here called the Challenge cup the mickey mouse cup not too long ago'"
fair enough our league form was bad..but we made up for it by winning the challenge cup but would you swap it for what hull kr or wakey or wigan have achieved...i would`nt...if saints lose on saturday they`ll be potless for once..we wont
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| Had the biggest impact on Super league, which is what the Man of Steel award is for, not the best.
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| Quote ="SPIRIT OF 74"Yes we did win 1 of the 2 major trophies but people on here think it means we are up with the likes of Leeds and Saints and we are nowhere near it our form in SL was nothing short of dire and if people were honest they would have been calling for Smiths head if we had lost in the cc final(which was a great achievement in winning it), but now is the time to be realistic and asses our SL campaign which was totally unacceptable imo champions are the team that win the league and grand final together all we have done is win 5 games in a row of which 2 were against lower division teams so it was like winning 3 SL games and getting a trophy,yes I am over the moon we won it yes i am extremely proud we won it , No I wont carry on blowing smoke up our own ass about it after next saturday it will be what happened last season and it is time to improve from now on in Super League and turn into the best TEAM in SL anything else will be failure in my eyes.
Lets not forget how many on here called the Challenge cup the mickey mouse cup not too long ago'"
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