I don’t think that anyone is obsessed with statistics, the comment was that Warrington struggled to get out of their own half but Wigan didn’t and our three quarters had a big part to play in that.

Because Peet was trying to accommodate Field at full back after his exploits last season (fair call) which meant French on the wing. Miski wasn't getting in ahead of French or Marshall and, to be fair, neither would either of your wingers. Since French went to fullback he's played every game.

You know, with the amount of quality coaches on these forums it's a wonder that Powell et al manage to get jobs at all!

I was replying to your comment that" French isn`t nearly as effective on the wing as Miski"

French has just signed a lucrative new contract to play for Wigan when it looked as though he would return to the NRL.

Wigan bust a gut to retain him and with Field playing fullback, French would have to be accommodated on the wing.

If Miski is a better winger then Wigan could have saved a massive amount of Salary Cap by allowing French to leave.

That is my reference to your stats comments, obviously the Wigan hierarchy think (And me btw) that French is a superb player and would get a game in every team in Super League playing on the wing if necessary.

I never said that Daryl Powell wasn`t interested in stats.

….and yet French’s best performances have come at 1, and Wigan have been better with Miski on the wing with Field at 6 and French at 1.

You don’t need stats to see that.

It is blatantly obvious unless you have eyes painted on.

Yes French can play wing….he is though a much better player for the team at 1 as he has more involvement.

You want your best players to have their hands on the ball more often he does that at 1 and Field still gets plenty of ball if not more at 6.

Why on earth would we sacrifice 1 player for another player when we can accommodate then both and due to the style in which we play is using our wingers to start sets get quick play the balls etc (which Miski is very good at, French not so much as he lacks the physicality of Miski and Marshall).

Without quoting 1 stat it’s clear to see that Miski on the wing, French at 1 and Field at 6 is significantly more effective than French on the wing, Field at 1 and Cust at 6.

It’s not that difficult a concept to grasp for you surely?!

Both Miski and Cust are off contract this year. That is the either or decision Wigan will make, and we’re I a betting man i’d wager Miski will be retained and Cust will leave.

You stated that "French isn`t nearly effective on the wing as Miski", I happen to disagree with you.

If Miski was a better player than French, he would have been selected more often on the wing instead of French.

…and going forward when everyone is fit he will be.

The way we play Miski is more effective on the wing than French is.

I know you don’t like stats…but the stats will 100% back that up.

You can disagree….but you are wrong.

You are confusing the issue. It’s never been French or Miski.

The selection question is Miski or Cust….not Miski or French.

I am not confused, I never said that "French isn`t nearly as effective on the wing as Miski", and no matter how you dress-up your replies to me, you stated that.

I do disagree with you on that, and the selection of French instead of Miski by Wigan, for the wing position shows that Peet also disagrees with you, otherwise he would have played Miski.

It's only since these Wiganers landed on here over the last 48 hours or so - they are proper intelligent sorts, not like the usual Wire know-nothings that usually inhabit here...

Wigan’s wings are primarily there to make meters early in the tackle count. That is their primary job.

If you listen to the interview with Marshall after the Wire game he even confirms this.

Miski is better at this than French.

Peet has been trying to accommodate French, Field and Cust in the team.

The selection hasn’t been French or Miski, it’s been Cust or Miski. You don’t seem to be able to grasp that. French and Field when fit are in the 13 without doubt.

French is a better winger and player than Miski.

The way Wigan play Miski is more effective in our system.

The stats you don’t want to discuss only confirm this.

What is it with you mate? Do you have a chip on your shoulder about something? The Wire fans are EQUALLY making coaching points about players' abilities etc as the Wigan fans are. Why is it only the Wigan fans comments that are irking you?

No problems here, 'mate', I'm just intrigued at this enthusiasm of you Wigan fans to come on here over the last couple of days....

We posted on this thread, discussing the Wigan game. We are holding conversations with posters who are replying to us and engaging with us.

That’s kind of the point of a forum.

Given his game plan on Friday, I hold my hand up you are right he shouldn’t be coaching

That’s what is successful in modern rugby league, there is no coincidence that teams that have won the Grand Final have all had wingers that make the hard yards. By the way, I never said that Wire’s wingers aren’t good to watch but they weren’t effective in the wet weather. Hence Powell introducing Russell for Thewlis.

Well when Abbas Miski (an enforced change to the Wigan line-up) becomes a GF winning winger you can come back and say you told us all so. Until that point he'll have to make do with having had a decent game in a dominant Wigan performance that saw them massacre us by 7 points.

And when Warrington have won a GF you can come and tell me how your wingers contributed to your success. I just hope you live long enough to witness it.

FYI Wigan have been making the change of position during games tactically to get French to 1 and Field to 6. King has been moving to the wing and Cust has been phased out for longer and longer periods during games.

It was at this point it became obvious the move would be made longer term given this is when we started to tick as a team and score points. King like Miski was very effective on the wing for periods in games because he is another player that makes robust carries and big metres. You would be stupid to use a bench spot on a winger but it was always coming down to how is the team more effective. Is it with Cust in the team or Miski, it’s clear Cust was being phased to cover half and doing spells at 9. I think the form of O’Neil and Miski means he will struggle to get back in the 17 when everyone is fit.

Do you have to win a Grand Final to be considered a good player? Some very average players have been part of successful teams that have won Grand Finals….Gill Dudson for example.

Yep, we are definitely here to just have respectful RL chat and not to gloat over and mock Wire's inability to win a SL title...

French is probably the best in every back position bar scrum half at Wigan.

It was mate until someone raised the question about Miski and the GF, you are being selective about what you read and comment on.

Do you think it might be something to do with the fact that our two teams have just played a game or that we're posting on an open forum on a thread entitled "tonight's game v Wigan"? I reckon it's a possibility. What say you?

And what's with the 'mate'? It's a perfectly ordinary way to address someone here In the rest of the world, even if it's seemingly unusual in your neck of the woods. Now you've seen it being used perhaps it won't seem so noteworthy the next time you come across it.

You really are quite a strange person, aren't you?

McGuire is listed as a prop on your website so Powell and the club must think he is. What would concern me is the lack of cover you have in the backrow.

Maybe that's why we have him the 13 shirt for this season.

He's a loose forward covering prop because he can play there too.

Tell Powell and Fitzpatrick to change the website. There is no such thing as a loose forward in modern rugby he is a ‘middle’.