Funny how its gone with Burgess isnt it.... when he was appointed, there was a load on here up for lynching Moran.. who made the decision to appoint.... i cba going back to dig up the thread, but there were plenty of people with bad things to say about the appointment.... im pretty sure there were also people wanting Tony Smith back.

Thank god Holbrook turned us down!

Despite the aura and relationships with players I love the way he listens and doesn’t think he knows it all despite his standing in the game. Imagine if Currie had asked Powell if he could play loose forward or Max Wood asking him to go out on loan…..they’d probably have been shipped off permanently.

I think we all owe Mrs.Holbrook a huge debt of gratitude.

Just thinking, when was the last time stains knocked us out of a cup/playoff tie? Must be over 10 years now?

Last year in the playoffs, but even then they didn't win convincingly against a poor side.

Before that I think we have to go back a good while.

Challenge Cup.
We have had the hoodoo for the last 3 games

2024 Wire 31-8 Saints
2020 Wire 20 -18 Saints
2019 Wire 18-4 Saints (final)

But before that it was all one way.

2008 Wire 34-40 Saints
2007 Wire 14-25 Saints
2002 Wire 14 - 36 Saints
1998 Wire 22-35 Saints
1987 Wire 20-24 Saints
1977 Wire 8 -12 Saints
1976 Wire 12-13 Saints
1972 Wire 6-10 Saints
...

If we make it to Wembley and if Wigan make it too. We owe them big time for 89/90.

Didn't we knock Saints out away from home in 1993/94 in the Cup? That was my first year of watching. I'm pretty sure Steve Prescott had a nightmare on the wing for Saints.

Unless this was the Regal Trophy of course, it's easy to forget we used to have several competitions pre-SL.

We've knocked them out in a GF eliminator twice I think. Once at their place and once at the HJ

Regal Trophy

93/94 11/12/93 Wire 16 - 8 Saints

Who can forget the 95/96 Regal Trophy game vs Saints away. Wire 0 - 80 Saints.

It`s a very long time since we beat Wigan in ANY final.

I would guess that most posters on this forum have never seen us beat them in a final?

1980/81 Lancashire Cup Final was the last time that I recall us beating them, (When they were a second division team!!!)

Do any fans remember a later final victory over the Pies?

Didn't we knock them out twice at their place, 2012 (Waterhouse's two second half tries) and 2018 (Lineham's match winner) and at the HJ in 2016?

Correct. 2012 in the black and red kit.

Ah, cheers. I don't really want to be reminded of that 80-0 game. Sort of started a spiral of mediocrity in the late 90s followed by us nearly going bankrupt.

Me, it never happened.

sadly it did and I was there

and I was there a little later when we only conceded 50 odd . It saw the end of Johnno which was a sad end to his time in charge

There have been 7 knockout games against St Helens since 2012…..it’s 6-1 to us.

Ratticus post that on redvee could do with a giggle...on Sundays game we made em kick out from under the posts..now golden boy kicked the ball a good 2 to 3 yards over the try line is this legal as I thought it had to be on the line or behind it...

He should certainly be able to see where the line is, given how his neck and head bend down like an Anglepoise lamp.

I still need a copy of this game. The link a kind soul shared on Facebook didn't work for me.

Showing my age here, but we may have knocked them out of the British Coal 7s at Central Park in the late 80s. We won the tournament too retaining Tony Barrow's unbeaten record at Central Park.

Yes, I remember that, but I think it was a 9s Competition not 7 A-Side.

I was asking about a 13 A-Side knock-out competition final, I can`t remember one after the Lancashire Cup Final that I related to.

I'm pretty sure we've won 6 of the last 7 knock out / play off games against St Helens...

I seem to recall they beat us at the HJ in a playoff eliminator by a Danny Richardson drop goal that hit the bar and went over? May have been about 5 years ago now i cannot remember.

I think that was a normal league game near the end of the season wasn't it?

Could well have been TBH. I just recall it having a playoff kind of occasion to it.