Your previous posts seems to blaim him, or ar least partially for the defeat



Anyway im not going to order a lynch mob on Riley for dropping the ball, but not going to pat him on the back and buy him a drink and tell him its not his fault, there is a fine line between having a bad day and getting the job done your paid for. We should be winning and considering Catalans are doing it with less money to spend on the cap we have to look at what they have that we havn't, and yes that goes right upto the top.

He is totally at fault for the error. No doubting that, what i've said during this thread is, that had he scored, it would've only masked the facts of what was another pretty abject performance. The pack were outgunned, which they shouldn't be by lesser counterparts.

Chris Riley is not the reason we are struggling at present, he's young, enthusiastic and still making his way. The only annoying thing that I find is that people let off his mistake as he'll "learn from it", what does that mean, anybody should catch the ball, reach out and score. Having watched that moment at least a dozen times, the only thing that I can conclude is that the opportunity came too quick for him, he was in effect running at pace and it hurried him.

All through this thread, I have resisted putting Riley forward as a culprit, all I have done is highlighted that it was a poor mistake.

JWP - Sullys dropped ball at Wakey did have a baring on the game and its result but you cant change the stick you hand out your beatings because Riley didnt score. Should Sullys dropped ball not be down to a silly mistake? The end of the day, had Riley plonked the ball down we would have won by the same token had Sully not dropped the ball we woud have won.
Not saying ALL of the blame is on Riley but as you poined out, a number of characters produced silly errors (inc Riley) that had they not we would have come away with a win.

However as you pointed out, the bottom line is we were out enthused in the middle (again). This is where games can be won or lost. The halves need the forward momentum, Stacey Jones had this - Briers didnt have the same yardage to operate under (although he did make a good fist of it).

Fundamental difference for me is, Sullivan v Wakey - He switched off. A crime in RL, a crime for a seasoned pro who's played week in week out in the toughest comp in the world. Riley was merely over zealous to get to the ball, if he'd relaxed, he'd have scored. Both mistakes, v.costly, just different in my opinion, although I take your point.

Totally agree with second half of your post which agrees with my post, so let's just agree to agree on this one.

Too many agree's in that one for me to agree!?!?

Agreed.

Not because of his error but i have always said riley will never make a good rugby player for as long as he has a hole in his a**e, does'nt run straight, cant defend, dodgy under the high ball and he will be exactly like Dean Gaskell because it will be ages before any coach relises he wont make the grade and they will ship him of to rochdale hornets or leigh.

le thief de oxygen.

I'll bet this month's wages that the one bloke who doesn't need telling Chris Riley should have scored is Chris Riley. The key, for a winger at least, is to score more than you allow. Remember all the comments about Offiah* not being able to defend? I doubt there's a club in the world which wouldn't put up with the odd error, if a winger was scoring regularly.

As it happens, I still think Riley's best position is at full back. He's quick, but not winger quick.





*Not comparing Riley to Offiah of course, any more than Kev Penny should be, I'm merely making a point.

Feel compelled to disagree. Riley lost the ball under pressure, Sully had all the time in the World to take that ball.

Riley made a stupid error, that ball should have had two arms fully wrapped round it, so all he had to do was fall over the line. Credit where it is due to Bosc for having the presence of mind to attack the ball as opposed to making the tackle.

captainblindman, please don't tag me as a Sully basher either as I was left totally bemused as to why he didn't finish the game on Saturday.

When all said and done, had we won that game it would have been a travesty anyway, we didn't deserve it.

Fair comment but there have been occasions (a few) where we have been beaten by a team when we deserved to win.

Its about time we started doing the same.

It is a team game and Warrington had 12 minutes to pull back 2 points and failed to do it. They simply cannot convert line breaks because of a lack of composure.

Agree totally. That's our biggest problem for me. The amount of bombed tries from ourselves over a course of a season is incredible.

Ha ha ha ha

These retro posts do my head in.

It was a special request from Rob_Wire.

Same, I Was wondering what mistake Riley had made...

Brilliant.

Thanks Graham, it was worth it just for Latchford Wolvesfan`s comments

I wonder if we go back over the past three years, we'd find the whole squad criticised in this way.

Good research.

Ya know what they say keep ya words soft and sweet in case you have to eat them later

A more appropriate one would be "It's better to remain quiet and thought a fool than speak and remove all doubt"

I'm sure I will fall victim to these retro posts, but I do my pants at some of these.

christ ...he was our best player..who on earth blames him shud go to spec savers...theres 3 players who shud be roasted...BRIERS..KING..AND MONAGHEN...get shut and leave riley alone ....