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| Nothing wrong with our pack tonight, it was the distinct lack of options on the last tackle and leadership that was our main problem. The main difference tonight was you having Danny Brough and us not having either Briers or someone stepping up and leading
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| Hudds out enthused us all over the park last night - the dummy runners, the controlling of the play the ball....... all of it.
BTW, can we have McGillivray & Brough please? Thanks
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| Stand out player from last night was Luke O'Donnell, followed closely by McGilvary and Robinson.
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| Quote ="PONNER"Give your own defence a little credit. The reason you think you was poor is because our solid defence wouldn't let you play.
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Its pretty easy to defend against any side thats lacking ideas in attack and is making unforced error after error.
Your pivots had far more idea than ours, your runners ran far better off the ball than ours did, you looked more energetic and seemed to have an extra yard of pace compared to us, you also looked like you wanted it more.
Last night reminded me a lot of Millenium Magic where you were quicker in everything you did, we only seemed to have 2 gears in both games which were a dodgy, crunchy 1st gear and a too easy to find reverse gear.
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| Quote ="Birkbygiant"Ouch you sound bitter
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Not bitter at all. Hudds by far the better team. i just don't think you'll be in the mix come the end of the season.
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| Quote ="Fearnhead Cross"On last nights performance, Huddersfield must have the best pack, because our lot got bullied big style!'"
your guys seemed intent on trying to knock our heads off,take out our danger men and wind LOD up rather than sticking to basics,we did just that and completely bullied your pack.
you may have the best pack when things are going well but last night you were a distant 2nd best.
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| Quote ="meast"your guys seemed intent on trying to knock our heads off,take out our danger men and wind LOD up rather than sticking to basics,we did just that and completely bullied your pack.
you may have the best pack when things are going well but last night you were a distant 2nd best.'"
B****X intent on knockin your heads off, the morley shot was all shoulder, and the others were just lazy. How about danny brough trying to reap the ball EVERY time he got his hands on it?
I hope the 's caravan gets broken into.
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| Quote ="THEOriginalWire"
I hope the travelling friend's caravan gets broken into.'" What's Briers got to do with this?
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| Quote ="PONNER"What's Briers got to do with this?
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i wonder if brought will stand up so well when he plays for england...
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| Quote ="THEOriginalWire"i wonder if brought will stand up so well when he plays for england...
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| Quote ="THEOriginalWire"i wonder if brought will stand up so well when he plays for england...
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That's why Brough keep's changing his allegiance, I bet it's hard to pin your nationality down when you don't know who your parents are?
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| Quote ="Rob Wire"=#FF0000Its pretty easy to defend against any side thats lacking ideas in attack and is making unforced error after error.Your pivots had far more idea than ours, your runners ran far better off the ball than ours did, you looked more energetic and seemed to have an extra yard of pace compared to us, you also looked like you wanted it more.
Last night reminded me a lot of Millenium Magic where you were quicker in everything you did, we only seemed to have 2 gears in both games which were a dodgy, crunchy 1st gear and a too easy to find reverse gear.'"
You sound like a wigan fan, we lost because we played badly.
The unforced errors were ENFORCED errors because they were caused by a very brutal and physically dominant defence. Some of the tackles on Hodgson showed the commitment.
Playing on the back foot because you did not dominate in the ruck was what led you to take poor options and make mistakes. Losing Briers was obviously a big blow but did you not beat us last year without briers in a game. When you stuffed us in the CC your pack blew ours away and let people like Bridge destroy us. Because your pack was so badly beaten that did not happen this time.
If your pack had dominated then you would still have created more chances than you did.
Forwards win games the backs only make the score look good. If we had your backs( plus McGilvary )we would have got 50. I still rate our pack very highly and would say LOD was the outstanding forward on both sides.
In terms of your pack Morley is a great player but cannot do the big minutes like he once did. He cannot dominate like he once did and his career is coming to an end. He would still get into most SL sides ( including ours) but his time is running out.
Westwood is a very good player but i question what Solomona does for you ( if you are on the front foot and the rest of the pack is dominating) he can be very destructive but if you need a roll your sleeves up and put a big stint in he cannot do it and his lateral defence is poor. Harison neds dropping for a month and be made to live in a gym. He seems to have gone backwards this year in terms of his physique. Still has the ability to be a great player but needs to look at Morley as a role model not big daddy.
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| Quote ="THEOriginalWire"B****X intent on knockin your heads off, the morley shot was all shoulder, and the others were just lazy. How about danny brough trying to reap the ball EVERY time he got his hands on it?
I hope the travelling friend's caravan gets broken into.'"
I agree with you on the 3 high shots that got penalised. All seemed lazy and tired rather than malicious. Disagree on Morleys the shot was all shoulder and bicep but straight into the face is very bad. I know what Morley was saying to the ref about it was my shoulder and he is only a small guy but Silverwood was right when he said it is your responsibilty to bend your back and tackle lower.
Your comments about Brough are laughable , you were as guilty of as many technical offences that went unpunished as were we.
I think you are mixing Brough and Long up. Long is the caravan dweller whilst Brough lives in a cave eating raw meat and wearing animal skins and trying to work out how to make fire. Despite that he is Englands best chance of putting the Aussies under some pressure in the 4N.
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"You sound like a wigan fan, we lost because we played badly.'"
Quote me where i said we lost because we played badly, nothing new on rlfans where someone is unable to read a post clearly in the context in which it was written.
Its a fact that its far eaier to defend against sides that are lacking ideas in attack, that reply was made in reference to someone elses post about defending.
I actually praised your win if you could be bothered to read on, i said you won because
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Last night reminded me a lot of Millenium Magic where you were quicker in everything you did, we only seemed to have 2 gears in both games which were a dodgy, crunchy 1st gear and a too easy to find reverse gear.'"
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"I agree with you on the 3 high shots that got penalised. All seemed lazy and tired rather than malicious. Disagree on Morleys the shot was all shoulder and bicep but straight into the face is very bad. I know what Morley was saying to the ref about it was my shoulder and he is only a small guy but Silverwood was right when he said it is your responsibilty to bend your back and tackle lower.
Your comments about Brough are laughable , you were as guilty of as many technical offences that went unpunished as were we.
I think you are mixing Brough and Long up. Long is the caravan dweller whilst Brough lives in a cave eating raw meat and wearing animal skins and trying to work out how to make fire. Despite that he is Englands best chance of putting the Aussies under some pressure in the 4N.'"
then god help us because he wont be performing behind a dominant pack against the aussies like he was last night. and that is the only time brough seems effective, in all honesty i think your other halves were much better than brough last night anyway.
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| Quote ="PONNER"Brought? Don't know him sorry
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Interesting how everyone turns to a grammar nazi when they're proved wrong.
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| Quote ="THEOriginalWire"Interesting how everyone turns to a grammar nazi when they're proved wrong.'" Oh I'm sorry, I couldn't see where you proved me wrong as he hasn't played for England yet
That's why it wasn't worthy of a decent response.
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| Quote ="PONNER"Oh I'm sorry, I couldn't see where you proved me wrong as he hasn't played for England yet
That's why it wasn't worthy of a decent response.'"
so you think brough will turn up and play for england very well? like he has done for all his other teams in the past?
he'll be back begging to play for scotland sooner than birkby giant's school holidays are finished.
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| We'll have to wait and see, he maybe another Sinfield who's ok for his club but no good for England. He's improved as a player and seems to have matured as a person too so give the lad a chance.
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| Quote ="PONNER"We'll have to wait and see, he maybe another Sinfield who's ok for his club but no good for England. He's improved as a player and seems to have matured as a person too so give the lad a chance.'"
fair do's, im of the opinion as i mentioned over on your forum, that unless he is behind a dominant pack then he is quiet, hence he was never very good at wakefield. So under that reasoning i think he will struggle and then become the blame horse for why we didnt perform well.
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| Quote ="THEOriginalWire"so you think brough will turn up and play for england very well? like he has done for all his other teams in the past?
he'll be back begging to play for scotland sooner than birkby giant's school holidays are finished.'"
Calm down fella, you are making yourself look a tool
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| Quote ="Birkbygiant"Calm down fella, you are making yourself look a tool
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Bitter much?
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| Quote ="Rob Wire"Quote me where i said we lost because we played badly, nothing new on rlfans where someone is unable to read a post clearly in the context in which it was written.
Its a fact that its far eaier to defend against sides that are lacking ideas in attack, that reply was made in reference to someone elses post about defending.
I actually praised your win if you could be bothered to read on, i said you won because
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If you read the first part of your post where you talk about unforced errors. You actualy made very few unforced errors. You then used that to justify losing before qualifying it with some positives about the Giants. You need to look at what you are writing and understand it before you reply.
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| hudds dont get too carrried away we are performing no where near potential just look what we can do when we do perform like the challange cup last year a complete performance , huddersfield have yet to hit a slump in form just like all the good teams do please dont get big headed and ignorant like the pies and the rhinos fans it comes back to bite you on the backside yes enjoy your result last night you was very good , but nothing is won in april ! . i have a real soft spot huddersfield if we cant do well hope you can both teams have a very simular back ground
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| Quote ="wire-till-i-die"hudds dont get too carrried away we are performing no where near potential just look what we can do when we do perform like the challange cup last year a complete performance , huddersfield have yet to hit a slump in form just like all the good teams do please dont get big headed and ignorant like the pies and the rhinos fans it comes back to bite you on the backside yes enjoy your result last night you was very good , but nothing is won in april ! . i have a real soft spot huddersfield if we cant do well hope you can both teams have a very simular back ground'" Yet to hit a slump? We've not hit top form yet due to Brown rotating the squad to find his best team. God help you when he plays his best side
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