Our squad has plenty of quality but does seem light on numbers compared to others. The decision to release so many to Swinton on season long contracts does seem odd and may well hurt us if we have an injury crisis in the form that hasn't hit us for a few seasons. I remember Tony saying that one of the reasons we didn't sign anyone from outside was to release some SC money to give to some of the youngsters on the fringe of the squad. To now let them leave doesn't, on the face of it seem to add up.

Dont take this the wrong way but im fed up with this kind of post,why not wait till said 19 is announced ????????

No offence taken. Perhaps I shouldn't have talked about the 19. it's simply that when I did wonder as to who the other two might be, I started to realise that we didn't have a huge amount of cover anymore. I found that surprising, because at the start of the season, I couldn't see how TS was going to ensure all our players would get regular game time.

They are not on 'season long contracts' but instead are dual-registered. TS can call on any of the Swinton-registered players at any time, which is why the arrangement has been so controversial with Championship clubs.

Wouldn't surprise me if this is our team on Saturday, will be interesting to see how Myler and Ratchford get on against tougher opposition. Currie definitely deserves his chance, TS bringing him in to the first team slowly will help his development, looks certain to be a great player in the future.

Would you class Horne & Holdsworth as tougher than Bosc & Pryce?

I am afraid these players are not DR'd. Below is a letter from the RFL in response to a question from a Swinton fan about the status of the six players;


Extract of letter from RFL;

"Picking up on your specific point I can confirm six Warrington players have recently transferred to Swinton, all of whom were ineligible to play in this season’s U19s competition due to being in the U21 and U20 age categories. Having taken the view point they were not going to play many, if any, games in the first team in 2013 all six players have agreed to the transfer arrangements and their new employment contract with Swinton Lions RLFC. These players are now not registered or contracted with Warrington Wolves and therefore do not count towards the regulation regarding only allowing 5 loan and/or dual registered players in any matchday 17".


So they have a " new contract with Swinton" and are "not now contracted with Warrington"

I was linking it with the second half of the Cas game when Briersy went off as a 'Precaution' but in regards to Bosc and Pryce then probably not.

I agree we were found wanting a little when Briers went off v Cas however, given this will be the second week of Myler & Ratchford playing together and with the training they have had in preparation I think they will work well. I'm more concerned we don't loose it in the forwards with the loss of Morley & Westwood. Think Saturday will be a game of calm heads and playing disciplined. Still think we will win though

Yeah I suppose that will benefit them both and yeah I agree that Moz and Westwood will be a huge loss on Saturday. Hope you're right and we come away with the 2 points, would be massive for us to go to Hull twice in the space of 8 days and come away from both games with something.

To be fair, on this occasion, a very good point has been highlighted. We appear to have all of a sudden gone from being a squad with loads of depth and struggling to give all our players a game to a situation where through releasing players to swinton for the season, sending others out on loan, a few injuries and a suspension we are almost struggling to name a 19 for this weekend.

The SL clubs have alot to answer for from their incredibly short-sighted decision not to agree to an u23s competition as advised by the RFL.

Hopefully common sense and forward planning will return in 2014.

We could always loan players under contract at Swinton.

Perhaps that is even a condition of their contracts.

Any idea who this six are, as against the 5 loan players?

This goes for both sides so I'm expecting quite a close contest.

Hull are missing Liam Watts, Danny Tickle, and Gareth Ellis in the forwards and all 3 would walk into our first choice 17.

The thing that I am most worried about is our right edge, where we are playing Lineham (Wing) and Crooks (Centre). Both players have bags of potential and are sure to be stars of the future, but both are also lacking SL experience.

Looking forward to a good game, have a safe trip over.

The six are Mendeika, Morrison, Burke, Ormsby, Shaw and Riley. They are our 'over-age' U20 players from last year.

I could be wrong, because the whole situation appears to be a 'moving feast', but we don't have any loan players with them, we have DR's. You can nominate as many DR's as you wish (Widnes have DR'd their entire squad) but the partner club can only field 5 of them per game.


I thought Troy was your home location by the way, not Northampton.

It is a moving feast but I think you are almost there!

I also believe that Danny Bridge has signed on at swinton as the league express indicated that it was now 7 that had signed and Bridge has been allocated squad number 20 at Swinton.

As far as we know there are no loan deals in place and the rest of those who have played for Swinton this year have done so on dual reg. Over the first three games these have been :
wood, McCarthy and laithwaite then
o'brien, Dwyer, laithewaite and mccarthy then
dwyer, mccarthy and currie.

Looks like there will be no DR players left this week

That is useful. I had heard Swinton were trying to sign a further Wire player but were having a contract complication.

Final piece of the jigsaw is whether Swinton can loan 'their' contracted ex Wire players back to us if we get further injury problems. Mind you at this rate it will be of no benefit, since Burke (ankle) and Riley (hand) are already out injured.

Just looking on the players twitter pages who are at Swindon, 3 of the 4 who have twitter have a Warrington related picture on their profile.
Glen Riley even states on his bio that he plays for Warrington

Surely this means that they are in some way still part of Warrington.

Technically, no. They have a contract with Swinton, not with us. But;

Life as a Championship club is tough. Swinton do not have a big squad of players that are contracted over 1 to 5 years. Each year they will agree a 1 year contract with the best players they can afford as they move into the RL season. So for me, this is the important issue; all their players will be released at the end of the season - including the ex Wire players. I think you can draw your own conclusions from there.

I think we'll lose tomorrow, possibly badly.

It's so early in the season, with so many points left, it will barely matter - although I'm sure it will feel like the end of the world on here.

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At least if we lose it make this forum busier!

Not sure about the prospects tonight to be honest, can't call it.

Tonight is an ideal opportunity for fringe players to step up and show their true worth. Copper will probably cover Moz's spot with hopefully Currie standing in for Super Ben. I can't see them letting us down. Myler seems to be growing in terms of confidence so I'm not all doom and gloom regarding this game.

They will select McCarthy before Currie surely?

McCarthy could fill the spot left by Copper I think.