It all stems from the top. We have a bloke in charge who is more bothered about Whizzy Rascal's cameo and turning us into a NFL team than disgraceful performances like we seen on Sunday.

ok lets do this again, when was the last whizzy rascal cameo?

Oh has Whizzy Rascal and that running Green Man gone now? That's all I went the game for.

Here's my 2 pennorth....I think we are too comfortable as a club and there is no one with a burning desire to derail the gravy train of long extensions, lucrative overseas contracts when you come for your holidays, and general mediocrity.

Everyone knows that the finances are good, the facilities are second to none, the players are well looked after, the hierarchy seem happy if you win a few more than you lose, no one gets shouted at if you can't be 4rsed (so it seems)....so why should anyone do anything different?

If the club truly want to win a GF I think they need to engage a Change Management consultant to come in and upset everyone. Show them what they are missing, make them hungry for success, point out that the paying fans earn a lot less than them in the main, and will continue to support the team long after they have hung up their boots, or buggered off back to Oz, so surely they owe it to them to do their best and give them 80 minutes a week of committed, do or die rugby - win or lose, at least look like they are a professional outfit who try their best.

But they won't, the arrogance, laziness and acceptance of mediocrity will continue, and us mugs will keep paying to watch it.

Rant over.

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It was tongue in cheek.

However, Whizzy Rascal, Wolfie going to St Helens, Kiss cam, Wire Flyer and NFT’s it’s all nonsensical.

Quote ="Mr Snoodle" If the club truly want to win a GF I think they need to engage a Change Management consultant to come in and upset everyone. Show them what they are missing, make them hungry for success, point out that the paying fans earn a lot less than them in the main, and will continue to support the team long after they have hung up their boots, or buggered off back to Oz, so surely they owe it to them to do their best and give them 80 minutes a week of committed, do or die rugby - win or lose, at least look like they are a professional outfit who try their best. '" I would love Jamie Peacock to work with the performance team, even on a short term basis. He knows what it takes to win and how to build mental resilience. https://www.jamiepeacock.co.uk/

Quote ="Mr Snoodle" If the club truly want to win a GF I think they need to engage a Change Management consultant to come in and upset everyone. Show them what they are missing, make them hungry for success, point out that the paying fans earn a lot less than them in the main, and will continue to support the team long after they have hung up their boots, or buggered off back to Oz, so surely they owe it to them to do their best and give them 80 minutes a week of committed, do or die rugby - win or lose, at least look like they are a professional outfit who try their best. '" I would love Jamie Peacock to work with the performance team, even on a short term basis. He knows what it takes to win and how to build mental resilience. https://www.jamiepeacock.co.uk/

Quote ="Wires71"I would love Jamie Peacock to work with the performance team, even on a short term basis. He knows what it takes to win and how to build mental resilience. https://www.jamiepeacock.co.uk/'" we dont need him, we've got kyie leuluai. also, how did peacock get on as football manager at Hull KR in 2016?

Quote ="Wires71"I would love Jamie Peacock to work with the performance team, even on a short term basis. He knows what it takes to win and how to build mental resilience. https://www.jamiepeacock.co.uk/'" we dont need him, we've got kyie leuluai. also, how did peacock get on as football manager at Hull KR in 2016?

you got anything more recent than 18 months ago?

pay someone to come in and tell us what we already know? thats very uncle rog style thinking

Oh sorry I didn’t realise we were just using dates that suited you, I was talking about his whole tenure. I did mention that in my original post, maybe re read it.

Since you brought the last 18 months up though, you do know we finished 11th in the last season and would have been relegated had it not been for a shocking team like Toulouse playing in the same league, don’t you?

its not dates that suits me, its just of those things that you were using to attack him when the most recent one was. which i probably did last year when you brought up the wolfie stunts, from 2 years prior, if he/we the club aren't doing these things anymore clearly we've learned,

why dont you have a pop at the inconsistency and unfairness of the current hoover half time challenge, the first couple of games were an actually washing machine sized washing machine, now its a slightly larger cardboard cut out, which is completely unfair on the people that did it with the washing machine.

madness.

They were merely examples of foolish ideas that have been implemented by Fitzpatrick during his time here. If you want me to list things more recently I can give you; performances, form, finishing second bottom, recruitment, contract extensions, loaning our best centre to our biggest rival, coaching appointments, etc.

Wolfie got sent off last week for sunbathing - KFP was probably ecstatic with the amount of 'eyes across that' - blurgh!

I don't mind the little stunts like above - ones that don't offend/wind up the opposition and give people a little chuckle (if that amuses you). I don't think we're prioritising daft stunts over success on the field but for me I'd be knocking the first one on the head for a while until we establish this winning culture - it just tends to make us look like the joke.

Ah yeah I forgot that one. Have that one then FMC. It's all well and good doing these stunts when we're winning all the time and we've a GF in the bag or at least won more than one Challenge Cup in the last 12 years but when we're doing it whilst serving up the sort of tripe on the pitch as we've been doing for the last few years it kinda gets peoples backs up a little bit.

And that got your back up so much you were sooooo bothered by it, you completely forgot about it, and someone else had to remind you.

Deffo got your back up, didn't it.

I have no idea what you're going on about. You asked for a recent example, someone has provided one, you've been proved wrong. There is no need to be upset about it.

you said you'd provide more examples, you didn't even think of this one, even though a man in a mascot costume lay down in the sun allegedly bothers you a lot, so much you didn't even think about it.

And it bothers you that it bothers him?

Where did I say I'd provide more examples of silly stunts like this? You asked for recent stuff so I gave you performances and recruitment etc. Lets not make stuff up now.

I mean, when someone says they're going to list things from more recently, you'd expect them to give you the most recent one (since it bothers them so much)ie from last week

Absolutely, I'm fewwwmin

Good thing I'm off today, I'm gonna have to go through this again later with w71 over jamie peacock

I'll ask again, where did I say I'd provide examples of more recent 'silly stunts'.

I gave you examples of Karl's more recent failings. To me, the recent form/performances outweighs Wolfie lying down, however you said that we'd moved away from that in the last 18 months and somebody provided an example that we haven't and now you're annoyed, just admit you got it wrong, it's fine.

PS: didn't you the other day create a post on another thread warning people about digging people out? Hypocrisy at it's finest.

So if we already know it then it just backs up what i said - we are too comfortable to want to do anything about it.

This club needs a top to bottom shake up......if anyone cares